Jefco's pred7 video

Yes, you and Oldtimer were two accused me of same.
Interesting enough was that for anybody else it was only a wish to come across such easy wheel to predict. Laurance Scott predicted it without any problems using VB he even thanked me.

Only self-proclaimed experts run away with excuses, accusing me of putting oil on the wheel.
Even if I did, oil is for everybody and it didn’t bother Laurance.

I do not start wars I present facts. If someone for that will pretend to be someone else to discredit me with his stupid accusations that’s his problem. If facts I present are wrong we can discuss it there is no need for dirty tricks to show your intelligence.

It is easy to yapp. I asked you to explain 3 pins. Can you?

As you say predicting with advantage the 2 pins is Impossible.(we all see that it is possible but thats ok)

Now when it comes to the point of the 3 pins then YES this is matter of luck and not skills for a VB player,even if the rotor is in the correct speeds to help us…
In such a wheel I would prefared to play the 2 pin game and If in some spins the ball will hit the 3d D and my prediction is still in an advantage position by the rotor overlap then these spins would be a bonus.
Only a very accurate RC with CORRECT and multyple algoriths can gain an advantage in the 3 pins.

By the way I tested the OLD FFZ Ique6 in the new Stefanos Video that U posted (the one that his RC were predicting " RISK " in a lot of spins)
The FFZ did great in 0-5 pockets prediction of the strike point in a lot of spins predicting in the 5th 6th rev…This is a great accomplisment!

But when i tested in the same video the Tilt 2 be making PS in a spin where hit the OPOSSITE D the resaults weren t so good.
I guess that was because the wheel wasn t to tilted so maybe that s why the Ique 6 gave good predictions.

As you say predicting with advantage the 2 pins is Impossible.(we all see that it is possible but thats ok)

My friend Viper, I would highly appreciate if you point to me where did I say 2 pins are impossible.
If you accuse me of contradicting myself, please quote it, and provide me a link to that post.

Never mind, but that’s not explanation how 3 pin advantage is created. If you did explain i would explain something more to you but now it doesn’t matter.

"Now when it comes to the point of the 3 pins then YES this is matter of luck and not skills for a VB player,even if the rotor is in the correct speeds to help us...." "In such a wheel I would prefared to play the 2 pin game and If in some spins the ball will hit the 3d D and my prediction is still in an advantage position by the rotor overlap then these spins would be a bonus."
Great, it looks you start understanding and I thought it was advertised only with Jafco's system you can play 3 pins.
Only a very accurate RC with CORRECT and multiple algorithms can gain an advantage in the 3 pins.

None, the way you think. To gain advantage according to Jafco’s presented 3 pins, 2 pins are giving same results but third pin will give about 16-18 pocket difference. The difference from pin to pin is ¼ of rotation. Computer can detect difference in ball speed of ¼ rotation but it can’t place border where is exactly speed for one pin where it is for another one. Same as PS the FF has but with 4 times higher precision. PS is for full rotation and you know how it may change and occasionally even if there is no parameter change some spins are just different. Imagine if everything is 4 times more sensitive and where difference for that ¼ of rotation is 18 pockets which we need to adjust for.

RC can predict it as tilt on same way as 3 pin is explained. Alternatively it can be predicted as levelled wheel where again errors will partly overlap.

"By the way I tested the OLD FFZ Ique6 in the new Stefanos Video that U posted (the one that his RC were predicting " RISK " in a lot of spins) The FFZ did great in 0-5 pockets prediction of the strike point in a lot of spins predicting in the 5th 6th rev...This is a great accomplisment!"

It is an old wheel, he was repairing ball track, for some reason the ball spins longer than usual for such wheel, it must be harder to predict it as a levelled wheel. Of course as tilt you can’t if it is so levelled. I didn’t look spins to details to be able to know more. I was more laughing how he couldnt get single proper prediciton.

No matter how accurate device we have if we are predicting 5-6 rotations before drop we can’t define borders in between diamonds because ball traveling by itself deviates more, therefore there is no way to mix tilt or levelled wheel prediction. I leave that for fags, they need to talk about something special to make every days bred. I am always prepared to listen.

0 …to… 32
15 …to… 27
20 …to… 0
22 …to… 17
31 …to… 0
12 …to… 7
34 …to… 19
31 …to… 35
5 …to… 28
16 …to… 15
9 …to… 25
14 …to… 29
14 …to… 0
34 …to… 34
5 …to… 3
31 …to… 5
12 …to… 17
25 …to… 24

prediction and where the ball drops

-18
-17
-16
-15
-14
-13
-12
-11
-10
-9
-8
-7 x
-6 x
-5
-4
-3
-2 x
-1
0 x
1 x
2
3
4
5 x
6
7
8 x
9 x
10
11 x
12 xx
13 xxx
14
15
16 x
17 xx
18 x

FFA secman program-level, prediction only 5 rotations before ball drop

Oh my GOD this thread is as long as the wall of china.

Hi guys!!!

I am here because I am in interest to buy one roulette computer…
I read so many post in the forums but nowere from someone who buy already and wins in casino!!!
Is there anyone here??
Can anyone what ever computer he use …Jafco’s or Forester’s or Stefano’s to say for us if win any money from the casino???
(the next is a message to viper but it is in greeklish…so dont try to understand what I am writing)

@viper
File apo osa grafeis katalava oti eisai ellinas opos ki ego.
Eixa diavasei se paliotero post pou anevases oti skeftosouna na agoraseis
to software apo ton Jafco…To agorases?Eixes apotelesmata?

I know you will never hear someone in the US or Canada admit to it publicly.

I’d never use a Roulette Computer for the legal implications alone. The laws in North America, especially Nevada, are very clear on the use of devices.

I’ve been checking out a few of the videos on the internet, and some of the videos look a bit like some people are using a little compressed air at times to knock the ball off of the track. I don’t know to whom some of the videos belong, I’m just saying that some of the videos look very suspicious.

HAHAHA maybe but defiantly it wasn’t me, since I never show final results on videos but only how the device works.

People do all kind of tricks just to look better and be more convincing.
It may not be always the case but it looks as more web pages and more videos as that someone has, the system is worst.
Since majority of people out there are completely uneducated in that field I assume such approach may work well for some to bust their sale.

Reality is far from that, when you play in casino and records 15 minutes and shows it on Youtube hardly that any advantage can be seen (if any). So how they make videos and why, I leave for you to guess.

I should have made it clear that I was NOT talking about any of Forester’s videos.

As a matter of fact I can’t be sure that anyone is doing such a thing. I just have seen some things on some videos that visually do not look correct.

You’ve been going to the weird part of the internet again haven’t you. ;D

Yes.

I’ve been watching the roulette spins where the women are topless.

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I guess haters are gunna hate. Stop hating on jafco it looks bad. :wink:

General talk, Snowman
Didn’t name anyone, except he said it’s not Forester .

We need to fight the pit bosses not ourselves. lol

When you find a roulette forum where everyone agrees with each other, let me know.

Highlighting that some videos are fraud or misleading created to convince people in to something unreal is beneficial and definitely it’s not fighting in between us. Someone who makes it definitely is not one of us.

If one day I decide to make video 1:1 hit rate and convince people it’s my system. If after people complain or highlight stupidities in advertisement how justified would be; hey leave him alone you should fight pa pit boss instead of each other.

Hi everyone here!!
I have in my hands the Pred7 exactly one year!!!(I was in London the 2011/11/20)
I have spend much time to understand it and much money to bring it in a high level of
professional equipment(I use all the buttons with my feet and that was enough money to make it)
I was at least in 50 different roulette tables arround europe!!!
I was tried in 5 different countries…new roulette tables…old roulette tables…teflon balls…ivorine balls…etc!!
I have spend time in home with his dvd spins to learn it perfectly!!
I learned so well that when in his spins the pc says “no bet” my pc says the prediction and it is correct!!!
But unfortunatelly only in his roulette works!!!
So after so much time and so much patience its absolut clear to me that is a big BULLSHIT the Pred7!!
If anyone decide to go in London to buy it just dont be so happy when you see so good predictions!!
That works only in his roulette!!Nowhere else!!

Are you sure about the date since December 23, 2011 you were here asking:

“Can anyone what ever computer he use …Jafco’s or Forester’s or Stefano’s to say for us if win any money from the casino???”

Winning with roulette computer from casino is never easy but from what you told us at least it doesn’t produce random results.

Sorry you are right!!
I was at 2012/01/15…But anyway the point is that the Pred7 and all these stuff for roulette computers are bullshit!!

And as you see before I post my comment here I was wait almost a year to be sure but unfortunately not works.
The reason that I decide to write about it is because if someone goes there and he is ready to buy it DONT IT!!!
In his roulette works perfectly (more than 70% succesfull)…but ONLY in his roulette!!!