Jefco's pred7 video

You can’t expect much from applications that only simulate a roulette computer.

The FF is the only real roulette computer available to buy. Actually there is something similar newly made at predictroulette.com for which I believe it may have same performance assuming the program is well made.
Such devices are far better for timing and I can tell you even it is far more accurate than any application for mobile phone or PDA, based on survey owners of such computers have made here, there is only 30% of people who make significant money with it. So it is never easy.

If you look applications market you can find to buy far more complicated applications for only few dollars.
Why people load applications to mobiles or PDA and sell it for large amount of money as a roulette computer is obvious. It is easy way to make money for them, especially if they make videos how it is easy to win to attract people without much understanding.

I looked some of Jafcos videos. The ball on his wheel decelerates so fast. At some places during the spin he has 350 ms difference in between ball rotations. It means the computer which can measure time with accuracy of 100 ms will still be able to predict particular ball rotation. On a casino wheels the difference may be 100-150ms which makes it far more complicated. Another issue you probably noticed is that the ball jumps are never constant as presented on videos.

Nice to follow this topic and make me think of what people told me about Pierre Basieux - that he can be very rued and just want the money out of people … Looks like John is not much different with some experience mention here …
Even if i find him very polite during email contact … i wondering how supportive he is towards hes customers after a buy ? that tells very much about a persons characteristics …

So we know with or with out RC we need real skills to succeed - so its hard to distinct what is what here …
I mean i speak to people form both camps - does who succeed with there RC and does who not succeed with there RC and that relate to all different kinds of RC (Even does who can tell the difference of 10ms) …

I assume there is no short cuts as i think many might think - you have to know physics and visual ballistics to succeed and masters all kind of different human skills …

Main problem I had with FFV (my original & upgraded one) is that the level wheel play did not work out for me. Therefore I have to look for 1 pin wheel (still not sure about 2 and 3 pin play) These are difficult to find these days. On the one or two wheels I did play on that had 1 dd, it was very accurate but for some or other reason after a while conditions change (don’t ask me what conditions because I cannot put my finger on it) Then I have to reset. Off course another bad thing which I believe Forester is looking at is the scatter. When I play vb2 I identify scatter for particular wheel speeds which is managable. The FFV though does not tell you what the wheel speed is and therefore one does not know which is the ideal speeds. Ok, one could manually count the wheel and operate the RC but I think the way Forester is going now where FF remembers wheel speed and scatter is the way to go.

The added stress when using RC in casino envirement compared to practicing at home on vid spins also makes a huge difference. Furthermore people bumping you walking in front of you while operating, getting in your way when you want to place bets etc. does make the actual play way more difficult than purely predicting at a video screen.

ONE MORE POINT. Some people (and I do not escape that bracket unfortunately!) want to play roulette instead of doing the proper homework. Discipline and finding the right conditions is very important and even with RC’s just jumping in and playing is just not right.

Forester, remember the touchbet roulette I always use to play but FFV cannot get a setup because of the quick ball deceleration. Will the new acrobat be able to handle it?

Currently when doing setup, always on the second last rev FFV throws out error. Cannot seem to register the last rev. These are 10year + wheels (Huxleys with 16 deflectors)

Program you have is “Unlimited” it take a single ball sample. There was an issue as you describing on some wheels but it was fixed with next revision. After that there is Acrobat A,B,C,D and F versions, which can set few samples for each individual diamond. I don’t know anyone having such issue.

Because the FF can predict in any ball rotation and have multiple predictions during the spin it uses all ball rotations where it must check for errors of clocking during the set process. If clocking was not up to the standards it would give an error. Later on how it works was fixed, also sample correction was added.

:smiley: Cool! It is only the two touchbet Huxleys I have this problem with. Second last rotation I click and no problem but before the last rev gets completed the ffv gives me error. All table wheels I have tried it on, no problems with setup. I really really want that acrobat to nail especially the one wheel. Very little scatter. December she will be mine… She WILL be mine. :slight_smile: