Online poker bot for limit/no limit heads-up


#1

Hello,

I’m looking for an online poker bot that plays expert heads-up, undetectable by the online poker server site. Send me a pm if you have a proposition, I am willing to pay for it but as the majority of the bots are suckers at poker, I would need a 24h free trial to check how it performs.

Best Regards.


#2

PM me :-*

there is actually clue at the home page here

:-*

secman


#3

mmmm … sound interesting


#4

any news on this Bago


#5

I am playing limit low stakes with success. When my bankroll will double, I will rise the limits. Will inform you.

Regards.


#6

ok mate …glad to hear it

are you useing the bot I recomended

PM me if you prefer

Secman :-*


#7

These guys make money while they sleep.
Well done!!!


#8

He might just be trolling.


#9

How can a poker bot contain sufficient code to correctly play a bluff?
Is it not fair to speculate that letting it play while you sleep is to in
essence be gambling in the hope you only encounter an odds player
and not one with experiance or flair for poker let alone a team play?

I have seen computers take the mantle in chess using brute force but
I always thought poker is not a pure science won with odds alone,
if I am wrong I would like to hear more!


#10

You can google “Pokerjoda” and “Blondini9”, two successful bots which played heads up poker limit sit ‘n’ go, made a small fortune like 30K before they were banned from FullTilt.
University of Alberta developped a bot called Polaris which has beaten expert poker players in tournament.

My honest opinion is Poker is the most profitable gamble online.


#11

Definately the most profitable online and maybe in any game in a casino enviroment, for a select few which
which can take the pot of course. So its the same as with roulette I guess.

Alot of top level chess players have crossed over to poker as the games seem to cross over with alot in
common for quality play so I have heard of the potential on offer.

Thanks for the info, Bago, I will look more into that. Would you know, did the program beat the pro player over
distance to illiminate the luck factor that exists with poker or was it limited to a single or small number of games?


#12

Found out some more about this and the reality of beating top players in a tourney
in a consistant manor is for me very dubious, with the added addition of big money
it seems even less likely. That said against lesser players and low stakes the jury is
out as I see a possible profit. For how long is debatable as you cant win every hand
and potentially need to play for a long duration. I would assume all games are
logged so if any suspicion is raised it can be easily checked for evidence going back
a big time frame so I wouldn’t know when any winnings would be safe regarding the
jurisdiction of my country!

For me it would require some time to set up as I would definately use a few duck and
weave tactics to prolong my cover, so for me this seems like having to play the long
game to make it worth my while.

Best of luck, Bago. Hope you do well.


#13

Very interesting.The other day I was talking with a friend of mine (he won a few euros (< 10) for a freeroll NLH and has now reached the figure of approximately 5 k in two years of the game using the bonuses that offer various online poker sites) if it were possible to obtain a solution of the game of poker.He responded by giving various parameters that a person should calculate in order to achieve this.We concluded that perhaps some really skilled person and could come close to this solution.Now I told him to search the internet Pokerjoda. I wonder if we will end up like in chess.The problem is that in poker there are a lot of money at stake … we’ll see. :wink:


#14

[quote=“devilish, post:12, topic:681”]Found out some more about this and the reality of beating top players in a tourney
in a consistant manor is for me very dubious, with the added addition of big money
it seems even less likely. That said against lesser players and low stakes the jury is
out as I see a possible profit. For how long is debatable as you cant win every hand
and potentially need to play for a long duration. I would assume all games are
logged so if any suspicion is raised it can be easily checked for evidence going back
a big time frame so I wouldn’t know when any winnings would be safe regarding the
jurisdiction of my country!

For me it would require some time to set up as I would definately use a few duck and
weave tactics to prolong my cover, so for me this seems like having to play the long
game to make it worth my while.

Best of luck, Bago. Hope you do well.[/quote]

HI Deviilish;;I have been doing some research on the subject for quite some time now, as one bot was brought to my attention begining of this year on RICHARD MARCUSES site along side some falce info about scammer stevs rc,Ive since looked a little deeper into this

Ill explain as much as I know

thats about the top and bottom of botting mate…low stakes …ie micro stakes ,

The advantage with botting

  1. player can clear bonuses quicker and can meet deadlines easier
    2)more rakeback
    3)over the long term player will take advatage of week/poor players (if player has good bot and profile)
    4)it wont go on tilt,it has no emptions to deal with etc

The above are acheived by (depending which bot) bots ability to play many tables at once and by playing flawless poker for hours on end

so imo id beleive it is possible to get an advantage(long term) by useing a good bot at micro stakes

Just before you go all iN and buy a bot,( man my jokes aint improved any) please read the terms of any poker room as regards to botting,if found on your PC they can close your account and confiscate ALL funds from you

Id just like to point out and confirm that the bot in quistion was the Shanky Bot

I may (If some of you wish) tell more and expalin more (with kind permission from a member from our forum) from real experience from some one who tested the Shanky bot

IMO it is a form of AP ,mmmmm money while you sleep

Secman


#15

Hi, Secman. Appreciate the heads up. Not sure I got the patients to set this up but with
that said money is money! Looking into roulette these past months tell tale signs have
lead me to believe that the advantage play has not only been around for a very long time
but also that the casinos or runners of such games have been trying to thwart this for
longer than many may think and simply hide its existence from the lay man before precision
engineering gave a close to level wheel. I firmly believe that maybe even most croupiers
may not have seen what is literally in front of their face!

The simple truth is that whilst a possibility exists and the clever few are outweighed by the
many profit can be put first leaving the window of oppertunity open. The advance of technology
however, mainly its smaller, covert nature may change the way the game of roulette is applied
if every man and his dog can use a sophisticated timer to gain an edge by buying an RC.
Poker on the other hand I cannot see it being broken by a computer due to the fact of random
probability and psychological role play may make the algorithm impossible in my head so advantage
play maybe more long term but I am no expert.

Perfect odds play for a pro should not be an issue with only 52 cards in play and an alert player so a
computer must have been able to play correct poker odds maybe for many decades now? If you have
more info on this I would appreciate your input as spending money with little revenue return is best
spent on nights out and women :-* Knowledge is power and someone with more knowledge is always
worth talking to. ;D


#16

As I said,Ill be happy to answer any quistions you or anyone elce may have

set up, once done for the poker room is saved …so reallz just got to go through the set up procedure once

heds up play…well im not an a authority here but Im not convinced that a bot could beat a pro 1/1 over the long term

Secman


#17

Hi, Secman. My money would go on the pro not a bot in a match of poker, the more I consider this the less I can
see a bot without advanced AI being any good and by that I mean not even close. My interest in the bot is not
to play 24/7 as this for me is too slow and uninteresting but not without possible worth if it can be applied differently.

Can check this myself though so thanks for the info.


#18

Shanky Technologies is an honest business run by honest people. We sell poker bots. Poker bots are specifically mentioned as not allowed at the online poker rooms where we program them to work at. So we make a living selling a product whose intended use violates the rules for the place it is intended to be used at. There is no denying this. It is flat-out a violation of the rules you agree to play by (when you sign up for a poker room account) to use our software there.

However there is a big difference between cheating and using automation tools on your computer, the way we see it. There is a big difference between cheating and violating (what we see as) a minor point buried in the fine print of the terms of service form. Our products cannot collude. They cannot gain any information that is not available to everybody else who is playing. They are not created in a spirit of cheating, nor are they promoted as cheating tools. Cheating discussions, and discussions about committing fraud in any way, shape, or form, are not allowed in our support forum. They don’t belong there.

Online poker is much different than playing brick and mortar poker. It is played on a computer, from your home or workplace, and that introduces certain wonderful elements that make it a unique experience. There are those who would try to suppress many of those wonderful elements and attempt to force online poker to be as close to brick and mortar poker as possible.

Not us. And not a whole lot of other people either. We celebrate the uniqueness of online poker and all the additional tools and elements that become available in such a cool, modern arena: Multi-tabling capability, the ease of taking literal notes on opponents, opponent stats tracking tools, database creation and sharing, and of course automated playing tools.

As a matter of fact we see successfully using a bot as the ultimate achievement in the natural progression for a passionate student of the game. It is like doing your graduate work in the field of online poker. It is very much within the spirit of this unique game environment; in fact it nurtures and inspires that spirit. If you haven’t fooled around with a poker bot, tweaking it to play how you want for a specific game type that you have identified, you have not yet experienced all the satisfaction that mastering the incredibly fulfilling challenge of online poker offers.

We are obviously not the only people that think this. We have sold thousands Holdem Bots over the last few years, and one thing we can conclude is that people who truly love poker also love playing with this toy. Our typical customer is an honest player. They are mostly people that just love the game, people who would shudder at the idea of cheating. In fact I would describe most of our members as poker purists, intelligent players who like to solve puzzles and tinker with gadgets.

Even some poker rooms have seen it from our point of view as well. I have actual letters from Bodog on file, from their customer service department, answering emails where somebody reported a suspected bot user. They basically say, “Well so what? Using a bot isn’t cheating. If you have any evidence of collusion let us know.” This was their natural reaction to the issue, arrived at from thinking logically. (Unfortunately they have since been blackmailed by the jerks at 2+2 into changing their official policy on this, and nowadays say bots are not allowed. So now they just turn a blind eye like our other supported poker rooms do).

It is worthwhile to consider that the people who are waging the anti-bot campaign are actually just good players who don’t want a bunch of other good players saturating the games and fileting their fish before they can get to them. They are motivated by simple greed, a “more fish for me” attitude. So what is really better for the game of poker? Catering to greedy semi-pros who are only concerned about their bottom line? Or introducing a natural new element which helps further a dedicated player’s thinking and strategy development?

Any popular computer activity has always had aiding aftermarket software developed for it, since the dawn of the personal computer. It is only reasonable to expect that every possible kind of software to aide in online poker play will be developed as well, of which the poker bot is the pinnacle achievement (in our opinion). To stifle that development is not only oppressive, it goes against the very spirit of the game. Mike Caro made a poker robot twenty years ago. There have been official poker bot vs. human competitions sponsored by major gaming corporations. Major universities have engaged in poker bot projects.

Operators, please don’t let the greedy semi-pros poison your mind with their anti-bot propaganda. Poker bots are really, really cool. Real players love them, they are a natural development of the game, and they should not only be officially allowed, but openly welcomed. They are as natural part of online poker as playing in your pajamas. Soon there will probably be a major online poker room that officially welcomes poker bots, and our prediction is that when the world sees how popular they really are, others will get in line as well. But whoever makes that first bold move will no doubt reap huge rewards for it.

If you were attracted to our website because you thought we were offering a cool way to cheat, and you are a person who is not repulsed by the concept of cheating, please go away. You are not welcome in our community any more than you are in the poker games.

This was a quote I found at the shanky bot forum

hey what do you guys think


#19

Correct me if I am wrong, it’s bonusbots.com site.
They make bots to play poker better than most of people so you win.


#20

Well as far as I see it is they sell merely a tool that will carry out a set of commands from a preloaded profile

and yes well they do maintain it will produce a long term profit at the micro stakes where players are week etc ,so yes it would be correct to say it can beet or atleast compete with most of these players at this type of stakes.

Im looking for a link atm where the page in quistion m akes for an interesting read about some university desighed a poker bot and tested it 1/1 on a real professional poker player, needless to say the pro won,but, the poker bot did win some sessions was close to beeting the pro

Ill see if i can dig this up ,

btw they seem to be the real deal , I cant really even smell a hint of scam here

Listen mate ,Iknow we pride oursleves at warning memebrs of the public of scam etc but weve never really went as far as endorcing someone elces product,and hey sure i understand that but , well , aaaaah , Ill get you on msn , rather than post farther here

take care my fellows

Secman

PS leaving a poker bot on while you sleep, I mean letting it play with your hard earned cash…mmm …posible sure ,but would some of the good plaers get a handel on the playing style and milk you slowely

any thoughts men