He writes predictions on his wheel like Jafco. Wheel ok but easy ball used like Stefano Hourmouzis in his demonstrations.
Strange thing is in this video the guy has black hair, and in the video where he drives a hummer he has grey hair. Obviously there are several people around this scam, contrary to Hourmouzis who wants people believing he is the director of a team but is alone when demonstrating his shit at home or in a room with empty chairs and talking in the wind.
1st of all the 5th rev is SOOOOO easy to spot that there is no need for a RC in this wheel.(even with no sound). A person with just average knowledje and skills in VB can do a lot better
2nd The scatter is so steady and close to 0 … so the strike point prediction is also the betting prediction.
3d It seems that his RC can predict rollers too ! hahahahahhaahhahahahahahahah!
Like Stefanos RC… and we all know what his answer will be if he ever reply to this. That his RC can predict the scatter too . :o
Also in some spins when ball is hitting the 12 DD and the ball falls into the rotor with no scatter at all ( THE ADVANTAGE PATTERN ACCORDING TO THE PARAMITERS OF THIS WHEEL) his RC is making wrong predictions.
It is just a bad RC that with this “”“selected”" video will fool only the ppl that have no idea about AP.
By the way this wheel is a lot easier than Jafcos wheel so even my grandfather can predict it.
I can t agree on this one with you my friend Bago.
This wheel at least isn t so TILTED as the Mark s one.
In this wheel also there is a problem in VB and RC… The spins are too short even for VB to clock rotor ( that it only needs 2 secs…so imagine with an RC). So even if u will have accurate predictions they will be very late…
But I like you Bago. You are a genuine guy that helps other ppl not to get scammed .
His prediction is not 3 ball s rotations before the end of spin as on Jafco videos. On this video counted 5. And it is the" knee point" when the ball deceleration increases where VB should predict. Also he spins more than 20 ball rotations compare to some others max 15 so the wheel is smoother ACC=200ms/s.
This is how the ball jumps from point where it hits rotor. So it is not simple as it just doesn’t bounce or as on some other videos. The scatter allows about 90% advantage. It’s easier said than done. After prediction and playing 8 pockets sector you may get 20%.
I didn’t look what was Marks advantage.
-18 …
-17 …
-16 …
-15 … x
-14 …
-13 …
-12 …
-11 …
-10 … S
-9 … S
-8 …
-7 …
-6 … x
-5 …
-4 … x
-3 … Sx
-2 … xxxx
-1 … x
0 … xxx
1 … x
2 … x
3 … x
4 …
5 … x
6 … xx
7 …
8 … S
9 … xx
10 … x
11 …
12 … x
13 … xS
14 …
15 …
16 … x
17 … xx
18 …
S=spinner
“”"“This is how the ball jumps from point where it hits rotor. So it is not simple as it just doesn’t bounce or as on some other videos. The scatter allows about 90% advantage. It’s easier said than done.”"""
If I understood correct YOU say that this wheel is not VERY EASY to be predicted??? :o
I don t know about ur opinion but If i had this wheel in frond of me I could become a MILLIONER.
It has the easiest conditions I have ever seen !
I showed you ball scatter that it is not zero as you said.
The wheel has much less ball deceleration then Jafco’s wheel and the ball jumps more.
The wheel has strong tilt at 12 o’clock and 50% and additional 25% at 3 o’clock. Rest is spinners.
50 and ½ if 25 makes 62.5 spins you can predict (if you have skill) vs 37.5 where ball goes wrongly.
Of course the wheel is predictable but not as easy as you said and I believe you’ve seen easier.
so still 20% for you
10 spins with a 0 scatter plus the 2 and 2 neibours side by side is the sectors that I would bet… So I got the advantage in it s CORE.
As u know we never bet only 1 number… so with 5 numbers we are more than perfect in this wheel.
This IS the easiest wheel I have ever seen INDEED.
Even if you want to look it that way and select the best 5
You have 10 hits in 31 spin.
That’s 2 hits per number played.
That’s 6,4 hits per number per 100 spins
Jafco’s wheel on 5 pocket sector scatter lets you have 3.3 per number played.
That’s 10.6 hits for 100 spins.
Mark’s wheel max advantage 127%
Jafcos wheel max advantage 292%
In simple words, on Marks wheel if place $100 across 5 pockets and have capability to predict precisely where the ball drops after 100 spins you will profit . $12,700
If you do same on Jafcos wheel you would profit $29,200
That was about difference in between scatter.
Predictability,
Jafcos video has all spins hitting 2 diamonds,
on Marks video there is 25% spinners. It can drastically reduce advantage.
Also you wouldn’t get 100 perfect hits but 75 which brings it down to $9,525 and do not forget that for 25 spins you will place $100, that’s $2500 exposed to negative advantage.
Marks wheel has smaller ball deceleration almost by double.
Braking in last rotation is also more unstable. So on the jafcos wheel prediction can be more accurate.
If casino offers me to play Marks wheel, or Jafcos but where for Jafcos wheel will pay me only 1:25 I would still play Jafcos wheel because its, 4 times easier, and Jafco demonstrated it well.
Surprises me that you didn’t see Jafcos wheel before.
Jafos wheel has a more dificult Knee point to see.( i don t care if u measured the decleration with FF… I care about what the eyes can spot better)
Mark s wheel knee point is very easily to be spoted.(the 5th rev is screamming !!! Hey here I am NOW is the correct REV) So this makes the VB advantage to grow by it s own.
Also in Jafco s wheel the knee point is at the 4th rev or 3d… so In real play the 5th is more practical to bet because U have more time to place bets.
So Mr. smart Forester ;D , when I speak about better advantage I don t speak about theoritical measurements… I speak ONLY about real conditions and observations to play. This is why If I had those 2 wheels infrond of me I would chose Mark s one… but of cource Jafcos is a great deal too.
The only thing that I agree with you is that Jafco spins the wheel with a slow speed that can favour the 2 pin game. Mark is spinning faster so u can t take advantage of the 2nd pin because the hot zone will be passed due to the faster rotor when ball will hit the 2nd pin.
Jafco showed you on his wheel how to make huge advantage. On Marks wheel you have no even theoretical chance to get it so high.
On any of videos I didn’t hear no more bets, therefore it should be irrelevant or equal.
Who says you have to predict late as Jafco on his demo video. If you can’t predict earlier it doesn’t mean that the wheel is less predictable or that someone else can’t take big advantage if playing it.
Jafcos wheel has enough spins to be predicted VB at 5-6 rotations to go same as your requirement, but even if played as a basic dealer signature it will give you more profit then Marks wheel with VB.
Predictability conditions of a roulette wheel is not defined buy what you can do or not, but what can be done regardless by who or how.
If you have no skill to predict Jafcos wheel, and if you look form only your perspective then you might be right and for you Marks wheel might be better conditions.
The only thing that I agree with you is that Jafco spins the wheel with a slow speed that can favour the 2 pin game. Mark is spinning faster so u can't take advantage of the 2nd pin because the hot zone will be passed due to the faster rotor when ball will hit the 2nd pin.
That also means if you miss rotation you are wrong by 9 pockets and it still might be within the range while at Marks wheel its bye, bye to your chips. What you called hot zone on Marks video is at the edge of chart which means if the ball drops in front of predicted number you are screwed again, huge negative advantage.
Jafcos whee, thel ball jumps 9 pockets but also it can stop instantly, which means you can play 9, have advantage of 2 pin, have advantage if case you missed one rotation and ball didn’t jump, or if it makes ¼ of extra rotation.
There is so many reasons why Jafcos wheel is better to play, you just can’t see it. To not be able to predict it 5 rotations to go, same as Marks it’s not an excuse.
There is so many reasons why Jafcos wheel is better to play, you just can't see it. To not be able to predict it 5 rotations to go, same as Marks it's not an excuse.
But we were talking about same predicting both wheels in 5th rotation.
If 2 skilled AP players play both wheels predicting 5th rev, one that plays Jafcos can be wrong 25 spins and still make 3 times more profit. Player who plays Marks wheel already have 25% of spins screwed because of spinners. If all remaining spins he predicts perfectly he is still far behind.
Someone who plays Jafcos wheel can predict 5th rotation correctly 50% of time and still win more. From remaining 50 spins some will be 5.25 some 4 because rotor is slow in both situations he is still playing with advantage. That scatter overlap may be as additional as ~20 spins well predicted. In total 70. Add to it that also 4.25 will be matching better since the rotor is slower.
Because the scatter is also in his favour ~3 times, that’s as 3 x 70 = 210 against 75 spins on Marks wheel even if the player on Marks wheel predicts all spins within 5th ball rotation as you probably want to tell us that you can (because of strong knee point, I’ll not argue it). But the reality is regardless if you can predict it all 100 at Jafcos wheel the player can predict correctly only 50 of spins and still make higher profits.
By the way 210:75 ratio means that what the player at Jafcos wheel makes playing 100 spins, getting only 50% predicted in 5th ball rotation, the player at Marks wheel would need to play ~300 spins where he has to predict each one accurately (except spinners) to win the same.
The two marks we have here have 16 deflectors. Still two pin wheel one of them ands the other mcloser to one pin. Only small balls. Scatter is a bitch some days. other days very managable.
The other 20 odd wheels are all Saturns without inserts and about 10 years old. Only small balls used, no exception.
I think its not quite black and white. I also prefer a wheel where you can get solid prediction as far out as on Marks, basicly around the 5h or 6th last revoloution.
Having said that, Jafcos wheel is not diffycult either, but under real casino conditions i think you will be cut off early on such a wheel. So in that sense Marks wheel
is to prefer. Under DVD conditions obviously Jafcos wheel is to prefer because there are no rollers and no NMBs. PS I didnt watch Marks video to the end so i dont know if there are rollers at all.
PPS: I think we might have different classifications on spinners/rollers. A roller takes at least 1 full revoloution on the number ring before it drops. So what is a spinner because i didnt see that many rollers. If any at all.
“”“I also prefer a wheel where you can get solid prediction as far out as on Marks, basicly around the 5h or 6th last revoloution.
Having said that, Jafcos wheel is not diffycult either, but under real casino conditions i think you will be cut off early on such a wheel. So in that sense Marks wheel
is to prefer.”""
@ Kelly
On Jafcos wheel they would stop you probably after 10-15 spins but that wasn’t the discussion.
Discussion we have had was on which wheel is easier to predict outcome. For that you will have to analyse or try to predict.
@Viper
Are you saying Jafcos wheel is so easy that casino would stop you playing so you would play Marks wheel because you will not be able to win so much. Then in same time for Marks wheel claim
“By the way this wheel is a lot easier than Jafcos wheel so even my grandfather can predict it.” :o
Tomatoes or tomaatoes. Its a hairsplitting discussion where you both know what the other part means.
Spinners ? How do you define a spinner ?
Roller: Where the ball runs at least 1 revoloution on the number ring.
The Knee Point: Is freely used as where the ball speed reaches the point where it is visually easy to spot a particular speed. However, the technical definition of the knee point is where the ball goes from 1 touch point to 2 touch points, which obviously looks like the ball hits some mud on the track.
Most modern wheels however has only 1 “round” touchpoint, (without the lip) but the ball decelleration still has a point where it decellerates slightly faster, without actually hitting “the knee”.
