Purple, I am not upset with you or completely against you. But you have to understand a couple of things about my point of view on this. I have been on a lot of roulette forums for about 4+ years now. There are not many things that really piss me off on forums, but by far the biggest one is armchair experts. What I mean is, roulette forums are filled with desperate people who come here looking for a holy grail type deal and then a bunch of people start giving advice saying things like, “This system is a guaranteed winner!” “Works every time!” “Never fails!” “Long term winner!” And they are all full of crap. Same thing goes with bankrolls. I have read people talking about 10K and 20K bankrolls! Sure, you can have bankrolls that large, but you don’t go telling people who just joined and are desperate that they need 20K to win. That’s a lot of money to a lot of people and gambler’s WILL mortgage their house if they believe they have something there. It’s just preying on desperation, and I think that it is no different than a casino operator. Scum.
Do you have any idea how many times I heard in the VLS chat from new people saying they tried some systems they found there, won a couple hundred and thought they had a holy grail, only to go on a lose a few thousand of their own money? It happens ALL the damn time. And I for one hate seeing it. Which is why I NEVER EVER tell someone how to bet their money. All I can do is educate them and hope they make a good decision.
Do I think that all you need is $50 to make $1000? Hell no. Is it impossible? Hell no. The point is, conditions are everything. How he could sit down with $50 and run it up into $1000 late betting and not run into any countermeasures makes me scratch my head. Does the casino care about 1K? No. Does a min wage dealer? Possibly. Dealers get kinda pissed watching people win and I see it happen lots where they try work against a player. Just the other night I watched a dealer sector shoot and try kill the entire table. It happens.
I don’t know how many people remember when Viper came on to the forum scene. He first popped onto VLS saying he was new and wanted help finding the Holy grail. About a week or two later he was saying that he had found the holy grail and began posting about this system and telling everyone how great it was and that it was the ONLY WAY to beat roulette. He then told newbies how great it was and they applauded him because they thought he was an expert even though he was only a month newer than they were. We warned him, and he argued that we were all wrong and jealous cause he found it first. A month or two later after it tanked, he then came onto the forums saying he found the holy grail, this time it was AP (Primarily VB) and it too was THE ONLY WAY! Then he became a self-proclaimed VB expert. Now, to be fair, Viper did learn a few things and I have to admit his VB videos weren’t bad. I was super biased against Viper too, but I have to admit that he did learn a few things. Would I make a tutorial video in my first month or two of VB, No I wouldn’t. But I applaud the guy for at least learning a few things and trying to share his knowledge. After a few months, Viper realized, “Holy shit! VB is a lot tougher than I thought!” Then he went on to post about how VB is dead and there are no beatable wheels out there and that the ONLY WAY to beat roulette was with the FFA for leveled wheels. All his VB and RC posts are on this forum. I doubt you will find the system posts on VLS because he had been banned a number of times there, but you get the idea. Here’s a guy, who goes from nobody, to system expert, to AP expert, to Roulette Computer Expert all within the space of a year. And the whole way, he is trying hard to teach new people. I am all for helping others, but when you truly still have no clue what you are talking about, I hate the idea of you giving advice, especially bad advice, to vulnerable people.
So, in conclusion. Purple, do I think you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to AP? Honestly, I have no idea. You only have 6 posts here… Who knows, we might actually become good friends. But you have to understand that I can’t stand when people tell people HOW to bet their money. It’s THEIR hard earned money! Do I think $1000 is an unreasonable bankroll? Absolutely not. I think that is a perfect sized bankroll, but I do NOT think that a new player to VB should take $1000 to a casino when he is playing for his first few times. It’s just a set up for disaster. If Laurance Scott can still have losing days, then what could a new player expect? And no one on the roulette forums ever really seems to talk about LOSING. They are ALL winners. And a new forum member only can believe what they read.
I honestly believe, if you can’t make a profit with $200 flat betting 5 numbers at $1 a piece, then it’s pretty unlikely that you will be able to do a whole lot better with $800 more. You are best off cutting your losses at $200 and walking away. And it takes a long damn time for a person to learn to cut their losses and have the discipline to walk away. Just bringing less to the casino kills the temptation. That’s all I am saying.
Too much VB does tire the eyes and the brain, I agree. Which is why you should only play when you are alert, awake, and focused. I haven’t seen much talk about that on the forums. You should also know how to spot good playing conditions, I also haven’t seen much talk about that on the forums. You should know how to measure and calculate your edge correctly, again, not much to read about in regards to that on the forums. But there are no shortage of threads when it comes to talking about wins, spending won money on escorts, or bankrolls, or anything else that is pretty well useless to a new player trying to learn something. Just my opinion.
As for Roulette books, Barnhart’s book is good and Scott’s VB material is good. Personally I think that Sharpshooter’s book is the least expensive and the best book for a beginning roulette player to read. It was my first roulette book and I ended up buying many copies to share with people, I liked it that much. Do I use ONLY the methods in those books for my VB? Not at all. But they are great tools to help you develop as a player.
No hard feelings Purple, I was not making a personal attacks on just you. I read your post and you did say that he would not be gambling ALL of his $1000 bankroll which is something I completely agree with. My attitude is don’t bring money into a casino if you don’t plan on using it, especially if you are a new player. Breaking you total bankroll down into a buy in for the night is totally fine. I also think most people confuse the term Bankroll with Buy-in. They are completely different. Buy-in’s are determined by conditions, limits, and other strategic variables. A Bankroll is all your total money for playing roulette. In my opinion, no one should EVER take their entire bankroll to a casino. I understand that a new player has to start somewhere, but still taking an entire bankroll into a casino is a recipe for disaster. Again, just my opinion.