What should I buy FFA, FFV, FFZ, FFA-U, FFV-U, UNLIMITED?

[forester]

It’s so confusing.

One typical email may be as this;

"Hi Forester,

I’ve decided to order a roulette computer from you soon.
I’ve still just to decide whether to buy the FFV or FFZ. I’m also very interested by
the new Unlimited system. Could you tell me, is that system available to buy yet?
How much does the FFZ-U or FFV-U cost? Is it a completely separate device to the
usual device containing Tilt2 and IQE6 or is the Unlimited software compatable with
those devices too?

Thanks."

It is the hardest question for me.
I really can’t give you an straight answer.
And I understand that decision may be confusing.

All you can do read forum and myrulet.com and try to understand what each device or programs is, and then make your decision.

Since there were some changes in all systems I will have to update pages and explain it a bit better all at on place.

Where to buy?
http://www.buy-roulette-computer.myrulet.com/index.html
LOL, sometimes I am not fair,answering only that.

Unlimited system is stopped. Only FFA still has that option.
Reason for that is that TILT 2 system has been modified and given all options of UNLIMITED system while still keeps point set of TILT2 system.

It is a bit confusing because we call software with options that can predict at any time UNLIMITED. But we also call particular system UNLIMITED.

New device FFV has only one program and it is modified TILT2.
Same program can be loaded on FFZ chip.

FFZ, is device where chip is inserted in socket and it can be replaced.
Traditional program with IQE6 and TIlT2 and adjustable timer, is older is not UNLIMITED. The option for some people was to get a new chip and to replace it.
When they replace it they can play only tilt 2 but with possibility to predict in any ball rotation.

FFA has it all, it is computer that talks. It needs induction loop, and earpiece.
Owners also have option to change or upgrade software by themselves.

Each system has its own advantages and disadvantages.

For example FFA that talks has to know rotor position all the time from moment we clock it so it can pronounce number.
FFV or FFZ do not. But FFA talks it is easier to hear number, but then again you need more wires on you.
FFZ and FFV can clock rotor at any position independently from ball.

FFV is reasonably new system.
For example this is comment I received.

"I told you…simle …flexible and very accurate!

I also told you that in my opinion is the best RC that U ever made!

The thing that made shocked, was the fucking rotor accuracy!!!

NO roulette computer should predict with voice anymore!!! because of the problems with rotor!!!"…

“With FFA when i was predicting the same spin over and over again…Even if i was making close to perfect rotor clocking, the float could be 4 pockets away from previous prediction…
With FFV U it was VERY hard to float even 1-2 pockets!!! and even if I was making prediction 3-4 revs earlier!!!”

It is only one opinion.

[system]

Hello

Forester - You wrote software is preloaded You can preloade softwer small vibration or zap in FFV / FFZ only on 5 numbers.Number 35,3,26,0,32 under the ball - yes I get small vibration ( zap ).
If the number 15,19 etc… … to 28,12 under the ball - no ( not ), small vibration ( zap ).

I have few time - 6 sec. Start ball - NMB 6 sec. I watch the video FFA on the forum Re: THE VISUAL BELLISTICS SCHOOL…FOR ALL THE NEWBIES.
I can not to determine ( define ) for the first 5 seconds which numbers under the ball. Not even moment before the ball hits. Difficult for me.

I ask You can alteration software ( program ) ?
I need predictable from FFV/ FFZ only five numbers 35,3,26,0,32

You can wrote in software ( program )
FFV / FFZ predictable Number 35 or 3 or 26 or 0 or 32 under the ball - yes I get small vibration ( zap ). Vibration - I bet on numbers 35,3,26,0 and 32.
FFV / FFZ predictable Number 15,19 etc… … to 28,12 under the ball - no ( not ), small vibration ( zap ). No small vibration ( zap ). No bett. FFV / FFZ predictable example Number 36, so No small vibration ( zap ).

Please answer Yes or NO
Yes I can wrote ( alterationin ) in softwar ( program ) .
or
Not - it is not possible. I can not wrote ( alterationin ) in softwar ( program ) .

Dan

[forester]

I still do not understand what your problem is and what you are asking.
When you use Google translating tools, sentences lose meaning.

When you looking 5 cm video of course it is hard to notice it. Zaps you do not look but feel.
Regarding prediction zaps there is nothing to be modified with FFZ , it’s perfect. Zap can be only 40ms long.
“vibration ( zap ). No small vibration ( zap ). No bett. FFV / FFZ predictable example Number 36, so No small vibration ( zap ).”

? ? ? ? ??? ? ?? ??
If FFZ predicts 36 why would you want it to not predict.
FFZ do not predict only if detects an error.

[system]

Hello

Thanks

When you looking 5 cm video of course it is hard to notice it. Zaps you do not look but feel.
Regarding prediction zaps there is nothing to be modified with FFZ , it’s perfect. Zap can be only 40ms long.
I understand - not look on video but feel in real.OK
OK I look then get vibration numbers under the ball but it was number 6 or 19 or 36 … Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh I do not know, too quickly.
If I get a vibration only for the numbers 35 or 3 or 26 or 0 or 32 I know that prediction is number 35 or 3 or 26 or 0 or 32 and I bet this numbers.
OK for me.Sufficient for me.Quickly for me.

I ask You can alteration software ( program ) for me ? Possible or Impossible.
Prediction number 35 or 3 or 26 or 0 or 32 I get vibration FFV or zap FFZ
Prediction number 15,19 etc… … to 28,12 no vibration FFV or zap FFZ

Please Yes or Not

Dan

[forester]

But if you are unsure you wait another ball rotation and see it again.
I can’t make the system predicting only for 5-6 numbers.
Instead of FFZ you can consider the FFA , it is easier.

[system]

Hello

Thanks You very much Forester and Toxic

But if you are unsure you wait another ball rotation and see it again.
Ok but extra time.

I can’t make the system predicting only for 5-6 numbers.
Ok I understand.

I’m sad.

I’m going to the casino today.I’ll watch and measure the time.
But I hope not too.

Measure the time
Number Zero at 12 O’clock first click, full rotation and number zero is at 12 O’clock again, second click.
Or number Zero at 12 O’clock first click, half rotation number zero is at 6 O’clock second click.
Then wait for ball to pass number Zero ( ball above, over number Zero ) and third click.
Now I have to wait for the FFZ to zap.
And then I bet.

Is it OK? I say it right?

Dan

[forester]

No it’s not,
You couldn’t see something as that written at any place or shown on any video.

You do not understand English well and you will be always making mistakes. I wouldn’t be able to help you since I wouldn’t know that you’re making mistakes. I am not going to translate FFA instructions or forum posts for you or anybody else.

I'm going to the casino today. I'll watch and measure the time. But I hope not too.

Measure time for what? Then you hope not too. Not too what?

Measure the time Number Zero at 12 O'clock first click, full rotation and number zero is at 12 O'clock again, second click. Or number Zero at 12 O'clock first click, half rotation number zero is at 6 O'clock second click. Then wait for ball to pass number Zero ( ball above, over number Zero ) and third click. Now I have to wait for the FFZ to zap. And then I bet. Is it OK? I say it right?

How can you measure time and wait for ffz to predict if you do not have the FFZ?
Where did you see clock rotor then click when the ball is over number zero?

This is the video about FFZ.

http://myrulet.com/roulette-computers-and-systems/28-ffz-roulette-computer-upgrade.html

[Toxic]

Hi Miro and Dan.

Miro I think Dan is trying to determine whether he will have enough time to predict with FFZ before NMB. If like he says it is 6 seconds then I don’t think he has enough time. I think that is what he wants to time for now.

Dan. First timing of rotor, then timing of ball (all in instructions) Then when zap, look at number under ball at that time.That is strike number. You sill have to track for scatter chart and add pockets to strike number.

Cheers
Toxic

[system]

Hi Toxic

Thanks

It is Super answer.I understand.

Time is OK.I think 6 sec is enough.I can time wheel before start the ball. Wheel ( rotor ) all the time spinning.No stop wheel ( rotor ) No touchbet,no live dealer.Automatic.Only machine.

Etc. Wheel timing - no time for me before NMB. Only ball timing.
So only twice click for me - for ball to pass the dominant drop and as it passes that deflector, click. Then when it passes again, click. Then wait for FFV/FFZ to zap. I think 2 max.3 sec

But I have other problem.My wheel is 2 sec. Wheel ( rotor ) full rotation - 2 sec. It is very speed.
I not see number under ball, after zap. It is impossible for me.

OK. As said Forester. You buy FFA.
FFA - number I hear.

Dan

[Toxic]

Jeez a 2 sec rotor is very fast.

Seeing the number under the ball will be very hard. I would attempt it though. I would wait for zap and instead of looking to ‘see’ the number mark it with your eyes and move with the point in the direction of the wheel. You should see it then.

[forester]

Clocking 2 sec rotor so early during the spin will cause more errors.
Computers that talk have to calculate rotor movement all the way form moment you clocked it.
For example you may clock rotor 20 sec to the end. If the rotor is 2s/r it is 10 rotor rotations or 370 pockets. If you clocked rotor by one pocket wrong it will produce an error of 10 pockets.

On the other side the FFZ works differently, it doesn’t matter when you clocked the rotor it goes form number at moment of prediction therefore error is reduced.

Predicting tilted wheel with 2 sec rotor is also harder. If ball traveling time deviates by 1 sec it would be 18 pockets error. (easy to happen especially with earlier prediction).
The FFA viper predicts 2 sec rotor well but we are talking about predictions 5,6,7 rotations before ball drops. With earlier prediction and errors are increasing.

How early we can predict roulette wheel, how fast rotor, how bad ball jumps, are commonly asked questions.
It’s not simple to know since all factors are related to each other.

Imagine roulette wheel slow rotor and small ball jumps strong tilt, large ball deceleration. There is no reason why we wouldn’t be able to predict it as soon as the dealer spins.

But then with every change accuracy decreases, except with later predictions it increases.