It looks Stefano is going to pay for VLS hosting to promote his GW.
I Asked Victor to remove my registration.
No man with healthy mind would allow ex criminal as scammer as Stefano to manage his account.
To make it more miserable, now Stefano claims that he also bought RSR.
Obviously he has short memory trying to make that it is al Mark Howe business who is lying playing on card that mark is not very popular. He still has all over his sites previous explanations how it was actually his site but he was giving “genuine reviews”.
This roulette systems sales business becomes real circus.
People become so desperate to sell promising and trying to do anything.
If they only spend so much time in casino instead of promoting and advertising roulette systems they could learn something useful.
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participate/msg92075/?topicseen#msg92075]http://vlsroulette.com/general-board/new-forum-owner-poll-everyone-please-participate/msg92075/?topicseen#msg92075[/url]
I do not believe that selling peoples databases to scammer is in any way ethical and fair to forum members.
As someone wrote on GG about this matter.
“So Victor has his, nice as you go, command post fall to the enemy. He sets out to beat Roulette, attempts to live off his winnings, admits that it failed for him to be pro, attempts to get his forum to pay for itself, and finally accepts that the endless stream of baloney festivals is not worth his time or his marriage. So his cult of moderators is now going to go extinct. Victor got out of it with his integrity intact.”
I was there when he started VLS forum. And it was pretty much as that.
He advertised his system and forum on all other forums and got members who were expecting miracles to follow him.
Now thy are for sale, since he doesn’t want to support forum any more.
So lets say it is " business".
The last fundraiser raised $375.00
This was supposed to keep the forum up and running. Keep in mind, you can operate a domain for less than $24 per year!
If I was one of those forum members that donated money, then I’d be asking for my money back since Steve is buying the forum.
I would be asking, “Are you going to be paying me back for my donation, since you’ve raised the money by selling the forum now?”
I believe people just want the forum going for longer.
Problem is that Victor hire dedicated server ($70 per month) for his experiments. Dedicated server can run 1000 different forums at once, it is not needed, reasonable VPS server for $10 a month will do same job.
Also Vbulletin software is most powerful forum software. Very optimized and it would need less resources. It costs $200 but it may be worth to buy it for large forums.
I have no interests in advertising or promoting systems.
When I think maybe it is good for them to have Stefano paying.
If from that he manages to sell one computer he is laughing. Sure he will run it his own way but I do not believe that VLS was rune the best way, so who cares.
When I read what he writes how he bought and RSR, I feel to vomit.
But who cares what I think.
I’ve just come back from casino loaded.
Viva VLS&.GW!!!
[quote=“Snowman, post:4, topic:428”]The last fundraiser raised $375.00
This was supposed to keep the forum up and running. Keep in mind, you can operate a domain for less than $24 per year!
If I was one of those forum members that donated money, then I’d be asking for my money back since Steve is buying the forum.
I would be asking, “Are you going to be paying me back for my donation, since you’ve raised the money by selling the forum now?”[/quote]
I thought that it was for the debt for last year ,I contrabuted 10 dollars
considering your background, you need to get it back 
http://whois.net/whois/gamblersglen.com
http://www.valueweb.com/web-hosting/
Gamblers Glen forum is hosted for $3.48 including domain registration.
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At some stages it was handling very high traffic.
I do not see why VLS can not use same host or perhaps one of VPS available under $10.
I forgot to tell you,
If you have any private messages at VLS and if you do not want Stefano to read them remove it. You know that administrator can read it all from database if he wants to!
So tell your friends.
HE HE I see new advertisements on VLS.
“Genuine Winning Roulette System: learn to use the physics of the roulette wheel to win consistently. These are the only techniques that concern casinos. Many casinos hire professional consultants to advise them about professional roulette players.
Discrete electronics to beat roulette (roulette computers): Pay $0.00 up-front for a roulette computer, and pay only 50% of your winnings. Test it all you like before risking a cent. We do not “sell” these devices anymore - they are FREE to partners. The risk is all ours. The devices are legal apply in many jursidictions, but application is still completely hidden and covert because casinos do not tolerate consistent winners, regardless of how winnings are achieved.”
Stefano is back to old tricks.
Last year he was doing same, I tried to get one computer since he was claiming the same, also few other people tried but he run away with excuses. "
(You do not qualify )
Computers are not his main objective to sell, he knows that it is only Java programming (if you insist he will sell you one) but he wants to sell GW and I know that he sold reasonable amount. There is so many people who believe there is a miracle with which you just sit and print money in casino.
“Forester claimed he tried to secretly become my partner but that I rejected him - he said this supports his belief.”
Gee, I can’t leave in peace and say what has happened. This guy must be very excited :).
Were in previous post I have said that?
I never in my life contacted Stefano “secretly” to get computer from him or for anything else. He is one who pretends to be someone else and trying to get more information from me sending me emails and pretending to be someone else.
To supply computer, I challenged him at GG public forum, in front of everybody. You still can find it there.
I am a roulette player and there is many here we simply challenge his claims, to send one computer, so if it is good we all will use it. It makes since.
I can understand that he hates me so few people from USA and EU tried but it ended with same results.
THE OFFER doesn’t stand any more since I really do not want to have anything to do with convicts.
This time I am not going public about this, I have smarter things to do then arguing with his kind.
Last time Stefano run away with excuses that I only want it to copy his software. Nothing makes sense with this guy. If I can make millions with his computer (as he claims) why would I care for software, anyway lately he claims that it is protected and that Nokia makes software for him.
To be honest I am really enjoying this with VLS.
It really shows how much people are desperate to promote and sell roulette systems.