Hello all.
So, after several failed attempts of getting somebody to personally train me, I have decided to tackle roulette all by myself.
I am a long time professional BJ player, so I am no new to casino advantage play.
Ive made a lot of money from casinos and I have what it takes to beat them.
After some time I think I now have a very BASIC understanding of what it takes to get an edge at roulette.
The reason I am so eager to learn is because I think I have access to conditions that are GREAT for roulette play.
I have already identified many roulettes that have 1 dominant drop point, many roulettes where the scatter is near to zero (and one particular place that IT IS actually zero).
I know a casino that uses plastic roulettes with very deep pockets that look like they were bought in a supermarket and that I believe are highly predictable.
Places with high limits and where the staff dont even know what card counting is.
This being said, I would like to ask for help in this forum to help me understand visual prediction.
My first question is the following:
If you have a wheel that has a dominant diamond (say it hits that diamond 90% of the time), that has very little scatter and in which you are able to predict very accurately when the ball is going to drop, would you say those are the best conditions one could possibly find for roulette play?
I have a lot of questions so thank you in advance.
And of course I will have no problem on sharing the locations of these wheels with those who are willing to help me.
According to your words, you have a million dollar case.
Was is it you want to learn?
Do you want to learn how to estimate the ball?
I know around 10 different ways and they are not a big secret.
Have you memorize the wheel layout so you can take offset when playing, or is that something you need to learn?
Cheers
Thank you for your reply.
Like I always say, I dont want to be spoon fed.
All I want to do is get a basic understanding of what are the main factors of roulette advantage play.
So I think asking some questions might help me get there.
I have found a roulette (actually several) that has 1 dominant pin (90%) and that has almost no scatter.
Are this 2 conditions enough to say this is a good wheel to play at?
Or is there something else I should be paying attention to?
No more bets is called really late.
EDIT: Sorry, yes I have memorized the wheel layout. I divided it by sectors and have it all by heart.
[quote=“valensans, post:1, topic:1122”]Hello all.
So, after several failed attempts of getting somebody to personally train me, I have decided to tackle roulette all by myself.
I am a long time professional BJ player, so I am no new to casino advantage play.
Ive made a lot of money from casinos and I have what it takes to beat them.
After some time I think I now have a very BASIC understanding of what it takes to get an edge at roulette.
The reason I am so eager to learn is because I think I have access to conditions that are GREAT for roulette play.
I have already identified many roulettes that have 1 dominant drop point, many roulettes where the scatter is near to zero (and one particular place that IT IS actually zero).
I know a casino that uses plastic roulettes with very deep pockets that look like they were bought in a supermarket and that I believe are highly predictable.
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[b]Why are you whining so much about teaching you VB.
If you have such a big bankroll , invite someone to teach you , pay
him the flight , pay him the hotel , and pay him for the education.
So easy.
Or another offer, come to Europe invite me , pay my expenses and some more.
In my eyes you are like a virgin , when it becomes ernest, she pulls up her slip.
And I doubt , that you have such a big bankroll. Imho you are looking for an idiot ,
that gives you informations for zero reward, shame on you. >:(
[/b]
E.H.
Places with high limits and where the staff dont even know what card counting is.
This being said, I would like to ask for help in this forum to help me understand visual prediction.
My first question is the following:
If you have a wheel that has a dominant diamond (say it hits that diamond 90% of the time), that has very little scatter and in which you are able to predict very accurately when the ball is going to drop, would you say those are the best conditions one could possibly find for roulette play?
I have a lot of questions so thank you in advance.
And of course I will have no problem on sharing the locations of these wheels with those who are willing to help me.
[quote=“Elhombre, post:5, topic:1122”][b]Why are you whining so much about teaching you VB.
If you have such a big bankroll , invite someone to teach you , pay
him the flight , pay him the hotel , and pay him for the education.
So easy.
Or another offer, come to Europe invite me , pay my expenses and some more.
In my eyes you are like a virgin , when it becomes ernest, she pulls up her slip.
And I doubt , that you have such a big bankroll. Imho you are looking for an idiot ,
that gives you informations for zero reward, shame on you. >:(
[/b]
E.H.[/quote]
And there I thought you were smart…
Who the hell is whining?
Im not whining, Im just trying to learn.
And of course I am a virgin… you dont need to be sherlock holmes to figure that out.
Ive offered paying for the trips and for the education to two of the people Ive contacted through here, but never received an answer.
The offer still stands.
I have no problem paying for that.
In fact, that is what I would prefer doing.
I can pay for anybody’s trip and for the teaching.
Anybody willing to take me up on that offer?
Valencas, just think, somebody who can do it don’t gonna teach you, unless they have something for it. And money wouldn’t be the main factor. If you are planning mooving to london someday, let me know. Ill teach you for free. I need people with some math skills and patience to team up.
In the mean time lok for jafco products, masterroulette. … lourence scott products. Or if you are prefering free help, read the forum. There is enough info here to make you start.
[quote=“valensans, post:6, topic:1122”][quote=“Elhombre, post:5, topic:1122”][b]Why are you whining so much about teaching you VB.
If you have such a big bankroll , invite someone to teach you , pay
him the flight , pay him the hotel , and pay him for the education.
So easy.
Or another offer, come to Europe invite me , pay my expenses and some more.
In my eyes you are like a virgin , when it becomes ernest, she pulls up her slip.
And I doubt , that you have such a big bankroll. Imho you are looking for an idiot ,
that gives you informations for zero reward, shame on you. >:(
[/b]
E.H.[/quote]
And there I thought you were smart…
Who the hell is whining?
Im not whining, Im just trying to learn.
And of course I am a virgin… you dont need to be sherlock holmes to figure that out.
Ive offered paying for the trips and for the education to two of the people Ive contacted through here, but never received an answer.
The offer still stands.
I have no problem paying for that.
In fact, that is what I would prefer doing.
I can pay for anybody’s trip and for the teaching.
Anybody willing to take me up on that offer?[/quote]
Valensans, listen to sergiy, it is the best advice. The knowledge you seek is just a little research. To pay someone would just save a little time.
I must say Im quite surprised by the responses.
Im a long time AP and have participated for years in forums and boards (ken’s site, gc, bjtf, etc).
I know how this things work and thats why I stated in my OP that I dont pretend to be spoon fed.
I am researching and reading, but even when doing so, everybody needs to be pointed in the right direction when starting.
And that’s all I want.
When I made my post I didnt ask anybody to teach me or anything, I just asked a question which for some reason nobody answered.
And I DID say I would have no problems sharing the locations of the wheels I have found with those who help me.
Anyway…
Sergiy, I appreciate your offer and I might take you up on that.
Next year I will definetely be in London for the rugby world cup.
But if I can travel this year would you be willing to meet with me?
At least for a coffee and a talk?
You will definitely need more time to aquire the skill. I like coffe. Pm me later when you plane to come, lll drop the line.