Tiro

I have been talking to him for a little bit and he seems like a decent guy. Motivated to learn VB for sure. I’m In Canada and he is in Croatia. Any of you guys in the area feel like meeting up with him and showing him the AP ropes? He has done enough research to know what you are talking about so it shouldn’t be to tough to talk to him. If he was closer, I’d meet him myself, but the damn Atlantic has other ideas.

Oh Davey please… :-[ lol

But thanks ;D

I was imagining meeting AP guys when you are newbie, when/if I “recognize” one in casino lol

Cheers

Drazen

I have recognized more idiots than AP’s when I am trying to recognize them from play alone. One time I was sure I found a bias wheel player. There was a dirty pocket that had a piece of lint in it making the 36 temporarily biased. Me and my friend were the only ones playing the 36 and a couple neighbors. This other guy showed up and was playing 36 really hard too. We all had a couple hits and I was about to approach him in terms of AP. Then I saw he was also betting 36 on the other roulette table as well. :frowning:

Funny thing is, I have met more AP’s as a result of this forum than I have by spotting them in a casino. I can only recall one time in Vegas when I saw a guy who was either playing DS or VB, but he was late betting sectors. It was on one of the single zero wheels there. Snowman was there and I asked him to confirm if the guy was VB’ing the wheel. He said he was, just that he wasn’t doing a good job of it! lol

Good luck trying to spot one though!

Interesting story

It just confirms how actualy VB hard is. There is no many people around who play it and still not all are doing good job with it…

Cheers

30-40 years back, it was possible to make decent money because conditions and wheel manufacturing allowed it. Now, you would need a big team all over the world to find those easy conditions that are simply not found by a single man alone in a restricted area.

It’s like trying to steal a database of credit cards from a shop seller site. 10-15 years ago, you would have found plenty of them, now with the advanced security measures, you would find it hard to achieve, still possible though.

[quote=“Bago, post:5, topic:851”]30-40 years back, it was possible to make decent money because conditions and wheel manufacturing allowed it. Now, you would need a big team all over the world to find those easy conditions that are simply not found by a single man alone in a restricted area.

It’s like trying to steal a database of credit cards from a shop seller site. 10-15 years ago, you would have found plenty of them, now with the advanced security measures, you would find it hard to achieve, still possible though.[/quote]

Easy? Well i didnt even tought that today i will find easy conditions which i presume you reffer to 1 DD, heavy taflon balls with very predictable scatter? That would be easy…

Reading this one gets impression that VB is on its “deathbed” with just a little more time to live?

I have to say that few people were telling me to leave out VB because there is no much future for it. Actualy that VB is 99% already dead…

But no one of you guys here told me that… Interesting. More like: conditions are not like in the past, but with enough efforts you can find your own way and succed. It is very hard but still achievable.

One respected member told me: actualy the only way they could forbid you to play VB is early NMB. The rest is up to you will you find enough parameters with wich you could play with or not? In other words higher level of skill and knowledge makes you can play maybe less good conditions to say so.

And conditions are changing all the time, so adopting and changing with them is what is most important i think.

Cheers

Tiro

It’d be kinda stupid for a casino to wave off late bets as a result of handful of VB players. They’d be losing all those idiot gamblers impulse bets in doing that. The casinos like any kind of betting that is legal. The more the bettor!!! hahaha get it?