Lifeofleisure
*That usually happens when the rotor has not been adjusted properly and sitting slightly high. under the wheel there is a column with three adjustment bolts that alter the height and also the alignment of the rotor. The ball that sits on a nice shelf. You can get the same effect placing the ball on the track at fast rotor speeds but this is then centrifugal force balanced against gravitational force.
Marty
Come on Marty, admit it, you are Mark! 
Obyously is Mark or troll ahahahah
Seriously, where did that off topic rant come from? lol.
So much garbage in one post ‘marty’
Marty, I removed your post for being badly off topic. I’m guessing you might be new to internet forums so I will bring you up to speed. Usually the way it works is the threads have topic titles so people know what the thread is about. You can find these titles at the top of each thread, usually in bold print to make it stand out more. Generally people read topics that interest them and post relevant responses to the topic of discussion. Don’t be discouraged if it’s a lot to take in. Everyone starts somewhere, but sooner or later you will get the hang of it.
This is a roulette forum and it’s nice to keep everything on topic as best as possible, otherwise each thread would be filled with spam, salad dressing recipes, viral videos, tips for weight loss, etc.
Thanks! 
Marty, I removed your post for being badly off topic
Thank god 
Its sad because in a lot of topics people stop writing when they get thrown off the course like that
Mark is sending emails to forum members who have their email available to public.
"palm size devices are that we allow only 10% £100 deposit for the item…
Smaller roulette computers cost much more to make. We allow 10% deposit for these too, but at £300 10% cost we like people to try the palm version first to same money!
"
Would be highly appreciated if he leaves members alone, I let him make links to his product there is no need for spam.
Send him 10% of the money and get 10% of the software!!! I hear that is his MO. RC’s need software, otherwise a deck of cards is a computer.
BTW, anyone else see the hilarity in attempting sales in a community full of staunch FF supporters? I guess RC market has really dried up and Forester has cornered all the business for himself! I guess it’s not that hard to do. Just make a product that does everything you advertise it to do, offer free and fast responding support, and sell it for a fair price. Economics 101!
Or be Mark and and sell broken cell phones for half price with half the software.
Marty i think the wheel was rotating at a speed which countered the weight of the ball and that’s why it sat there, the point i was making was that the event showed the bias on the wheel, interesting thing about this particular casino is that a number of the wheels appear to exhibit bias.
Anyway I’m digressing,
Back to team advantage, if anyone else has anything they’d like to add on the subject, it’s appreciated.
LifeofLeisure.
LoL, I think you are seriously misguided in what you believe a biased wheel to actually be. A lot of new players do this, and it’s kind of a pet peeve of mine. I will try explain it a little better. What you have described is an event that can happen on ALL wheels. This does not mean that all wheels are biased. All it means is at a certain rotor speed, when the ball misses a vertical deflector or bounces back onto the number tape, the centrifugal force of the rotor negates the force of gravity allowing the ball to ride the number tape for a long time. NOT A BIAS!
Suppose the rotor was never spinning. If you played the numbers underneath each vertical deflector and the neighbours, you would have a devastating edge. This edge would be increased even more if the wheel was tilted and you bet more under that deflector. Does this mean the wheel is biased? NO! It just means that under those specific conditions, the wheel is exploitable. What if the dealer never spun the rotor or the ball, but just dropped the ball into the rotor at the same place. Bias? NO! Just a condition that can be exploited.
Tilted wheels are NOT biased wheels. They are playable wheels for DS and VB. That’s all. A biased wheel is a wheel that favours specific numbers over others, over a long period of time. We are talking 10,000+ spins. You can’t possibly say that all the wheels are biased in your casino without having the 10,000+ spins of data to back up your claim. Assuming that they are biased wheels is a serious error in judgement that can cost you a lot of money.
Furthermore, you are describing an event that is not that common, nor is it exploitable. They called a no spin! How can you take advantage of that? You simply can’t.
Spotting weird bounces, spins, or other things that seem to defy the laws of physics, does not mean that the wheel is biased. But if those events happen consistently when they encounter the same numbers, then maybe it could be biased. But without the relevant data collection to prove it, it is simple speculation.
System players claim to be able to predict the next numbers, does that mean the wheel is biased when they are correct? Not at all. Bias is something that has to be proven, not assumed. Proving it is not the easiest thing to do either.
[quote=“Davey-Jones, post:30, topic:900”]LoL, I think you are seriously misguided in what you believe a biased wheel to actually be. A lot of new players do this, and it’s kind of a pet peeve of mine. I will try explain it a little better. What you have described is an event that can happen on ALL wheels. This does not mean that all wheels are biased. All it means is at a certain rotor speed, when the ball misses a vertical deflector or bounces back onto the number tape, the centrifugal force of the rotor negates the force of gravity allowing the ball to ride the number tape for a long time. NOT A BIAS!
Suppose the rotor was never spinning. If you played the numbers underneath each vertical deflector and the neighbours, you would have a devastating edge. This edge would be increased even more if the wheel was tilted and you bet more under that deflector. Does this mean the wheel is biased? NO! It just means that under those specific conditions, the wheel is exploitable. What if the dealer never spun the rotor or the ball, but just dropped the ball into the rotor at the same place. Bias? NO! Just a condition that can be exploited.
Tilted wheels are NOT biased wheels. They are playable wheels for DS and VB. That’s all. A biased wheel is a wheel that favours specific numbers over others, over a long period of time. We are talking 10,000+ spins. You can’t possibly say that all the wheels are biased in your casino without having the 10,000+ spins of data to back up your claim. Assuming that they are biased wheels is a serious error in judgement that can cost you a lot of money.
Furthermore, you are describing an event that is not that common, nor is it exploitable. They called a no spin! How can you take advantage of that? You simply can’t.
Spotting weird bounces, spins, or other things that seem to defy the laws of physics, does not mean that the wheel is biased. But if those events happen consistently when they encounter the same numbers, then maybe it could be biased. But without the relevant data collection to prove it, it is simple speculation.
System players claim to be able to predict the next numbers, does that mean the wheel is biased when they are correct? Not at all. Bias is something that has to be proven, not assumed. Proving it is not the easiest thing to do either.[/quote]
Have you ever really studied and played biased wheels?
Bias wheel playing involves many details.
Of course I have. That’s precisely the point I was trying to make. The term bias is so over-used that most of the people who say the wheel is biased haven’t got a clue what a real biased wheel looks like. Read the posts on any roulette forum. Someone will post a single reader board worth of numbers and say “Is this wheel biased?” The replies are always the same.
“It looks biased to me.”
“It could be biased.”
“You need WAY more spins to know.”
At this point the OP comes back saying. “But it hits the same diamond most of the time.” Then the replies are.
“Yup. It’s clearly biased.”
“You’ve probably found a biased wheel. Play it hard!”
“You still need WAY more spins to know. Like thousands of spins.”
Biased wheels have nothing to do with tilt. Can biased be tilted? Yes, just like they can also be level. Can the ball get stuck on the number tape and result in a no spin at specific rotor speeds? Yes, just like it also happens on RANDOM wheels!
If people read the forums as a guide for determining wheel bias, then 90-100% of the roulette wheels would be biased. But for those that actually play bias, we know this is clearly not the case.
Would like to keep expressions on this forum same as Davey.
• Biased wheel a wheel with uneven distribution of numbers where the ball stops.
• Tilted wheel a wheel with dominant ball drop point, regardless if it is created by tilt on the wheel or damage on the ball track.
Some people like to call tilted wheel biased, because it has a bias on the ball drop points.
My apologies for my explanation, i should of said wheel not level, however the point i was making was that the no spin did provide me with info, it showed me the wheel wasn’t level, and in my opinion showed why a particular diamond appeared to be more dominant.
It was just 1 of those rare events and i happened to notice it showed the wheel was definitely not level.
Appreciate the feedback, thanks.
LifeofLeisure.
yip you get older wheels with messed up tracks that are daily leveled but vb exploitable. I have two wheels I am currently having alot of success on because of this. They are are not tilted but dd bias.