Steve Hourmouzis exposed concerning the online casino challenge

Roulette Computers
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According to his proves it is 80 times better since it’s 10 times cheaper.

Scammer really didn’t have luck since I have bank account with same bank.
It’s easy to edit it to any value. So please do not plan to rob me.
Only someone stupid can believe that someone who really made money form roulette would care to show his bank account.

Let’s leave for the day when guys form Ritz team who won more than 10m show us their accounts and desperately try to convince us to buy system they played. And for the day when Steve from genuinewinner finally makes something that counts.

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Forester,

While what you did is good to show newbies that his “proof” of money is just an edit, I think we do not need to expose him more because he is really in the dead phase with his widely known scam. When you are a legitimate guy who sells genuine products, you do not need to buy more forums, more adds, more spamming, more discounts, to prove that you are genuine, after all those years he operates. In the contrary, such business behaviour is the sign of sinking. Or you do that when you start a business to be known and attract first customers. Even the registered members complains about his pop up adds, they know themselves Stefano is a scammer and would like to talk about something else!.

His unability to win the requested amount at the online casino challenge despite all his claims on his scam websites testify he is nothing more than a con artist. He said it would be easy, that I was too stupid to believe the contrary… Time gave me reason, he failed to do it, so if he was an honest guy, he would give me 100K for having proved his products are a scam and noone can win any money with them.

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Just back from the UK and i see that Stefano has put a big red banner on VLS. Looked at it once and i aint hittin the log in button to get rid of the page. That sales trick is as old the DOS system on my old 486 computer. “Its easy, just log in and it will be gone…”, yeah right. If that is what is needed to get people to log in, there must something wrong with the content of the site.

And J ruining GG with his repeating posts. I only read larry and stantons posts now. Holy cow, talk about a retreat. GG used to be good fun with lots of inputs from all over the world, but who actually reads someone who just repeats his posts again and again. I remember Mark did that once and again to harass. All he gets is people stops reading his posts. I even forgot what the issues were. (But im certainly not gonna read 100 identical posts to try and find out.) Mr J must certainly feel stepped on and humiliated to trigger that sort of behaviour.

Take a bisquit and move on, crybaby.

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Forester,

While what you did is good to show newbies that his “proof” of money is just an edit, I think we do not need to expose him more because he is really in the dead phase with his widely known scam. When you are a legitimate guy who sells genuine products, you do not need to buy more forums, more adds, more spamming, more discounts, to prove that you are genuine, after all those years he operates. In the contrary, such business behaviour is the sign of sinking. Or you do that when you start a business to be known and attract first customers. Even the registered members complains about his pop up adds, they know themselves Stefano is a scammer and would like to talk about something else!.

I wouldn’t make video or care if he didn’t do it and used my name with intention to use video as a prove how i was wrong. Obviously he thought the video would look convincing.

His unability to win the requested amount at the online casino challenge despite all his claims on his scam websites testify he is nothing more than a con artist. He said it would be easy, that I was too stupid to believe the contrary... Time gave me reason, he failed to do it, so if he was an honest guy, he would give me 100K for having proved his products are a scam and noone can win any money with them.

Last few years I am offering him to convince any constant member at this forum in effectives of his RC and I’ll listen him more seriously. Would I really have a choice? Instead making real prove he prefers bragging around.

@Kelly
Try to register at that banner to too see will you get a winning system as it’s advertised!

VLS was a decent forum before then Steve Steve took it over. Now it is just to promote his scam and most real players he banned.

In regards GG, I feel sorry. It was reasonably independent forum, from which everyone took something.
The problem is nobody new can register.
Sometimes ago I suggested to Snow to talk with admin to upgrade it to the latest vBulletin version, ill pay for it (without any commitment), or help in fixing it or moving to some open source forums. However he couldn’t get in touch with admin, for some reason admin disappeared.

How was UK? When I was in EU I’ve heard there is still many good opportunities in some casinos there and guys still kicking.

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That ‘VLS/Genuine Winner’ forum is pathetic.

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It simple, on weekends he can’t write posts.
You check any of his forums on weekends; nobody comments his posts, than you can imagine how many multiple identities on each forum he has.

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Why can’t he comment on weekends? Is he doing weekends in jail or something?

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He lives in outskirts of Melbourne. According to some he works on weekends as a laborer at docks, and some other say he is still serving time.

When I called legal aid (they have free phone help) they told me they can’t help me since they represent him with some issues. I asked them; but they wouldn’t tell me it’s confidential.
I simply do not care what he does.

That post he made i noticed since he used my name. Making proves of his bank account which can be easy edited as i showed; and posting videos form his holiday 6 years ago simply doesn’t make any sense. Only Stefano can understand why he made that post and why instead of playing his system he wastes his time with that.

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Just received another automated email form genuinewinner scam site.

"Our roulette system has been featured on numerous TV
programs, including “Breaking Vegas” on the Foxtel CI
channel. Professionals in the casino industry all agree our
system is indeed effective. "

He forgot to add read how Ritz team have won. :-\

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As i understand the the Ritz members are not doing so well at the moment.

There are certainly places left in the UK that can and is being played. One still have to have a good act ready though, because Kaisan and son did what they could kill the game in London. Both barred in two major chains now, and even worse for the rest of us, the management (again) got their eyes opened for potential dangerous players.

As for Laurel and Hardy (Steffie and J) i honestly couldn`t care less. Unless im extremely bored im not gonna comment on their behaviour. I waited for some 6 months for his on line play. I know it can take time to collect solid data and for a challenge one would be even more carefull, but 6 months…

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Not even close as they did but still it’s ok.
Somehow money form roulette become evil for them, to many bad investments. :-X

As for Laurel and Hardy (Steffie and J) i honestly couldn`t care less. Unless im extremely bored im not gonna comment on their behaviour.

That’s the way.

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Don’t any of you guys have a life? You are very sad men indeed ;D

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It is your first post, HELLO to you as well. Apparently you are making posts on Stefano’s few forums, you also added an effort to hide your IP address.

That’s what person we discussing here was doing but on the end ended in jail.

Compared to such time waste for whatever reasons you have, yes we do have life.

Past 6 months have had six holidays and two were oversees. You are welcome to talk about roulette but there is no reason to be arrogant.
Arrogant is a polite word.

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Hide my IP adress where?

Miro, i would say you had an obsession with Steve, you seem to mention him in every post :smiley:

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But Forester not just mentioning Steve.More important that he is ANALYZING Steve’s stuff(and not only Steve’s).And offering to disscus his thoughts.Personally I very grateful to Forester for his info.Forthermore,some friend of mine was ready to buy Steve’s RC but after reading Forester’s analyze of course changed his mind.

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@Red squad
You seriously should consider stop talking a nonsense.
I am not sure if facts makes any effect on your opinion but the forum has a button search.
Last time word Stefano was used in October last year, therefore an apology wouldn’t hurt.
What you were saying is just a scammer’s excuse.

Letting people write about his product or for example Kelly challenge test where he couldn’t make $5K in more than a year is for the best public interest as Alan just mentioned.

Regardless to all his past failures he is always welcome to supply his product to any top players here and prove it working. If one of them finds his product working be sure others would follow as well since they communicate and outside this forum. Until now he couldn’t even complete any challenge he was bragging about.

Second time.
I suggest you stop using proxies and hiding IP it’s against forum rules. It’s to prevent scammers pretending to be someone else, talking rubbish and taking members valuable time. Hiding your IP you show no respect for this forum as such you’ll not be welcome. Regardless of what you think we want information here to be the most reliable and transparent. It shouldn’t be hard to understand but only you can decide what’s next.

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[quote=“forester, post:76, topic:531”]@Red squad
You seriously should consider stop talking a nonsense.
I am not sure if facts makes any effect on your opinion but the forum has a button search.
Last time word Stefano was used in October last year, therefore an apology wouldn’t hurt.
What you were saying is just a scammer’s excuse.

Letting people write about his product or for example Kelly challenge test where he couldn’t make $5K in more than a year is for the best public interest as Alan just mentioned.

Regardless to all his past failures he is always welcome to supply his product to any top players here and prove it working. If one of them finds his product working be sure others would follow as well since they communicate and outside this forum. Until now he couldn’t even complete any challenge he was bragging about.

Second time.
I suggest you stop using proxies and hiding IP it’s against forum rules. It’s to prevent scammers pretending to be someone else, talking rubbish and taking members valuable time. Hiding your IP you show no respect for this forum as such you’ll not be welcome. Regardless of what you think we want information here to be the most reliable and transparent. It shouldn’t be hard to understand but only you can decide what’s next.[/quote]

Ok enough on that subect then.

But i can tell you i am not using a proxie. I would admit it, but i am not using one… I am fron england, i am not trying to hide this.

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Red is fond of licking piggy’s butt. I think you’re doing a mistake posting on my thread, Piggy wanted his potential customers ignoring the fact he lost my challenge consisting in turning 5 times an initial bankroll against a live wheel online. But maybe he is still working in his garden and will do it when it is finished (challenge opened on August 2010).

Best Regards.

Bago, scam buster, truth teller, pig butcher.

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Tony, steve got you in the webcam challenge like explained at roulettewars.com/bagodemo.html and proved you wrong. That is why you are so angry but you should be thankful he set you straight.
instead you dont want people to know. I see see right through you, your lies about the results and all. So you made another challenge to waste his time but should he waste more time on you? He is a busy guy and I dont blame him for having higher priorities than always proving you wrong. Besides from what I know, Addonai one of his players already did the challenge for him and posted the results but you dont want to admit it

Miro, all your computer does is clicks to mark the reference point, then you compare the initial number to the winning number, then adjust offset. VB. Steve has a free computer that does the same thing. Free. Dont tell me mobile phones arent good, I saw the testing at roulettecomputers.com and I know computers enough to know the difference between a basic computer and something better, like explained at Computer Comparison You only fool people that dont know better. I think you call steve a scammer because you know his are much better.

Alan it is easy to believe forester when you only read one side. No research is why some people still think steve is a scammer. Forester’s analysis is not accurate and is based on assumptions that steves computers do the same thing as miros, and miro doesnt know anything about his system. His analysis of steves system is so wrong. he doesnt know or care. If you have forester’s computers, just test it on same spins steves computer is used on like http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/publicdemo.wmv and steve only used his least accurate settings. Simple testing of your own instead of believing people like tony and a competitor, dont you think its better, or do you always believe what other people say?

I can see people here are either extremely prejudiced against steve for personal reasons, or misled by these people. I know the motivations of some of you and why you have a problem with steve. Like steve said you have no interest in the truth. I was hoping to have honest and fair people but it is not the case here and there is no point arguing with people like this. You will just throw trash back and so I should not waste more time here.

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Geeee I’ll try to be polite, a scammer is here.

Well, in every past post you proved your opinion was wrong.
You didn’t learned anything from it.
First you come and accuse people about discussing this thread, accusing me to make every second post about same subject, when you learned that nobody even mention Stefano for more than 3 months, you kept going.

Didn’t you say it’s waste of time?

I agree with you, the point of last few added posts 3 months ago was just to prove how his video is not a prove at all. Why he used my name with video when he published it, or why he showed video from holiday 6 years ago, only god knows. I assumed he believed some new people may not know that it is old video , and that bank account details can be easily edited in browser to look as real. Just another opportunity he took to manipulate people.

If you referring to Steve /Stefano guy who come from jail where he was serving time for scamming people, then start selling Java application on an old Symbian mobile phone trying to convince people it is a roulette computer. (Check for how much other java applications selling for). One that publish other people videos to mislead potential buyers how some others have won since nobody ever made a video or positive review about him regardless he spams the net and claims to win millions with his imaginary thousands of players…etc. We are not interesting.

There is already at this forum so much discussed everything with proves of his manipulations, and as I already told you instead of attacking me he can challenge any good player form this forum to compare his toy with professional custom made roulette computers as FF.

Not sure how you can fit his mobile in mouth as for example new FF can be used, because it’s so small and made for it. Hey, but you can try; just open your mouth enough ;D.

He is a scammer he scammed Bago, he advertised his computer with 200% money back promising just to sell. Bago tested it and it simply didn’t do anything any better than RNG.

Video you referring Bago was right, for Stefano is same when computer predicts same spin completely on opposite side of wheel for us it’s not. Same happened with Viper, when viper told him now I want to see both hands on camera so you do not press any extra buttons he got all random results. Search forum and you will find it.

Nobody ever tested Stefano’s computer and made a positive review. Stefano claimed someone did but nobody ever could ever talk with that person to confirm it. Even what Stefano explained was laughable for anyone who has some knowledge.

Snowman was next to test it also it didn’t happened, then Laurence, nothing happened again then he said Kelly will test his GW how he will make 5 k, even Bago challenge was 30k. Stefano in more than one year couldn’t make 5k, on the end he gave up. Do you know I get email form him almost every week advertising buy, buy last chance; honestly it looks so desperate. He has time for that and to run from forum to forum but no time to prove what he promised.

Once when people in Croatia who he scammed tell me he refund them or supplied them with computer better or at least equal to FF (they successfully use), or if I hear good word from someone who I know is actually making nice money form roulette like Snowman, Kelly Mike..etc. then we may change opinion.

What someone who talks not logical saying for man who come out from jail for scamming people that he is not a scammer, giving us links to read as a prove , links that same person wrote, we do not care and it’s completely out of logic. I know what Australia government said. Actually it is an assault on human’s intelligence.

You didn’t come here to learn or to share knowledge but to promote scam. Now it’s obvious why each time your IP is different range. Sorry there is no place for scammers and manipulators here.

I’ll keep this post so everyone can see how desperate someone is. :wink:
God forgive me for wasted time.