Hi everyone. Has anyone tried predicting live online roulette by modelling the physics of the ball and wheel? Has anyone managed to get good results? If yes, please share what accuracy you achieved and which provider or specific roulette table it worked on.
Online is much worse than land-based; there are some acceptable conditions here and there, but so far there’s no one that can prove you can win online… People will talk about it, they will say it’s good because there’s no one watching you (not true, it’s widely assumed they do track your results, and can detect what’s going on, there’s a reason over the years more and more of late betting tables have been removed, because it probably got abused…)
There’s no one i know that can prove they are winning online long term, one person claimed it, another showed some results, but it wasn’t anything near long term, the provider was evolution with auto-roulette.
The program is so far tested only on prerecorded videos, and the conditions are not similar to the ones present online, so i can’t tell if it would work online, it depends on the conditions, it might even be one day it might work cause you get more predictable spins(a dealer spins with a better rotor speed, making the ball drop more predictably vs a speed that’s not as predictable).
From my tests, the conclusions so far are:
-Ball deceleration for most standard wheels with a dealer(not auto-roulette tho most of these as well) is highly predictable, but the program must be able to adjust for deceleration changes over time
-Depending on the conditions, it’s highly likely to achieve 40-55% exact diamond hits, meaning the diamond the program predicts, is the one that will be hit, and from that you can deduce scatter.
-The accuracy can be increased by betting only at certain rotor speeds, when a specific diamond is predicted to be hit(as well at a specific speed), or if there’s enough time, when the ball will reach a specific speed, for example, 1200 ms per revolution
The tests i did with the prerecorded videos, show clearly that specific wheels can be beaten and with good accuracy, if you want to see the exact spin results.
Remember one thing, these are tests, not real world results, and the program is still not fully done, the spin amount is from 200-2000, so it’s a good amount.
Listen, everything you wrote here is wrong. I advise you not to waste your time trying to predict roulette. It would be better to read some PDFs and scientific materials about roulette physics modeling. Maybe you’ll find an approach there that can actually produce results.
A person that i assume by your question, never did any long term testing telling me something remotely of what you said is beyond ridiculous and absurd, especially for online games where i spent the most time, for everything i said i have a proof, the conditions online are harder than land based, if you look at the same providers, how they looked then vs now, it’s instantly obvious.
“everything you wrote here is wrong” This is said by who? How many tests have you done? Did you play any auto-roulette? Perhaps you didn’t even read the message, because everything i said is clear and a fact for any person that did any testing.
You can’t name a single thing that’s wrong here, since everything is correct, it is as well beyond ridiculous that a person that does or claims to have computer vision program after 1 year is still asking questions “can you beat this”, if you’re that good why are you even asking?
You and i assume your buddy have lost the track completely with this computer vision garbage, perhaps you need to read something about roulette because so far it clearly was every other garbage method than what actually works.
its funny how you are saying those stuff but you dont have results and proof too. Everyone can talk big. Since you are soo good and soo informed whats the difference between online and real wheel? Come on show one good project for online since you “spent the most time” i want to see that chatgpt garbage
Is this dude above just your computer vision buddy or perhaps a cloned brother, cause you two are just as goofy.
I never used chat GPT, when i started doing this AI wasn’t as popular, and to every single developer that suggested me to use AI to MODEL the deceleration curve or do other things,
my answer was always you don’t need that, both in private and in the forum if they ever said that in public…
Perhaps i said that even in your DM’s when we talked, this is pure garbage and a wannabe insult, but that’s cool, when someone is cornered, he can get stressed.
“Its funny how you are saying this stuff but you don’t have results and proof too”
I earlier said that i can show him some of my test results, but he probably didn’t bother to read that part, and sooner or later i said many times that i will record videos with test results, another bad take.
To answer your question, “whats the difference between online and real wheel”, that’s strange that you need to know this after 2 years of doing this, but few very critical things
-Most of the wheels call no more bets much earlier than they would on land based, MOST there’s no betting at all after spin
-Most online use new wheels, while you can still find older wheels in some countries and regions
-Most online use ivorine ball that’s much more bouncy than Teflon, while in land based you’ll find Teflon more often
-Most do change cameras and angles, making it less accurate to acquire initial speed deceleration data, this can be corrected manually but only if you’re willing to do that
The only real advantage online has, is more spins per hour, but there’s not much usage if it’s a lower advantage
No need to travel.
Someone might say it’s “safer” to cheat online, but only a fool believes that you can make it even remotely obvious and get away with it.
That’s nobody’s fault that both of you have 0 results so far, getting angry at someone that tries to answer your questions ain’t helping you, if you still didn’t notice there’s not much traffic on here.
You need something else? Tell your CV buddy to point me 5 “WRONG” points since in his head everything i said earlier was wrong, i want some real points, not just talk.
No one is attacking you xd you are getting mad on your own which proofs who is in the stress part, people who keep argue and try to make a point are the one that have nothing but whatever. I do roulette as hobby. while i have fun searching for some perfect accuracy you search for advantage and if you are still here clearly you havent found it. You can get in touch with Yoman he also won milions in monopoly money and now only coach
Delusion and gaslighting, it’s not me that keeps asking simple questions “GUY are you winning, maybe you do have some good providers?” nor “Why would you say that land based is better?” Not me, cause i do have the providers.
“while i have fun searching for some perfect accuracy you search for advantage and if you are still here clearly you havent found it”
You probably meant “we still didn’t found it, we the CV buddies”.
I never asked a single question on this forum, nor i needed any help with anything, guess who multiple times got lost, just grab a mirror, the person is there.
Never heard about some yoman dude.
You forgot as well that i don’t program in javascript, but a language that is challenging and slow to develop, and you know it.
I hope that you both can show your results once you’re done, we will see then.
cute you are trying to mog me that i use programing language that is best working for my use case xd. And you use cpp which makes you instantly better but the compiler does most of the job for you anyway. lets not talk that you probably dont understand memory managment and stuff. if you want we can go logic gates i can mog you there too.
This is said by a fool that never touched memory management, and that clearly has some “personal” issues, perhaps he’s jobless for a prolonged period of time, clown i said that because you were complaining why i still didn’t show any results(or rather upload them, cause the tests are already there), you are not a serious person, and probably you’re bad at programming since as you said, most of your programs were discarded like trash…
This is said by a dude that worked as a personal “shoe clear” of a known scammer named shadow roulette, this must be a joke, and a bad one.
Find some hobby and leave this stuff for real developers, this isn’t for 3’rd grade kids that have issues in ever space someone might imagine. You don’t know much about programming nor about roulette it’s pointless to talk with trolls.
xd iv seen your projects please.. and really dont talk about programming to me. and about being jobless xd i can see i bruised your ego and you dont see how hard you are ragebaiting your self. dreams are free buddy i roulette and coding is hobby for me. And now other people are trash because they are making money and you dont, shadow scammer or not he knows and makes so much more than you that you dont even realize. And about my project i will release almost everything for free soon on a discord server with clear explanations on how and why i have taken that path/way. Live your life little man, prove you are better with results not typing in a forum. But keep arguing im bored and you are getting the bait. Idk is your keyboard better for coding than mine xd?
The troll comes back with more invented stories, everything you say is a confession, you discord programs more often than socks, you said it yourself, and your garbage head will try to bruise anyone, when you’re not in position to lecture even an amateur programmer
You never touched anything serious, you never had any clue what are you doing, that’s why there’s plenty of topics “how do i do that” with you as a main character.
Shadow roulette is so smart that he has to steal from people and not even deliver the scam program, to call you an idiot is to say nothing, go back to your project 995, maybe at least you go though half of what you have planned.
You are a sick little man with career complex, that never achieved anything. You clearly have no plans to talk about roulette because you still don’t know anything after 2 years, do everyone a favor and be quiet.
This is not being said by a fool, but by a person who knows how to use roulette and knows how this roulette computer works.
And that’s why you two keep asking people how to do stuff and how to win? The dude doesn’t have any program that can predict, at beast a scam as his master shadow roulette, there’s no point total with two people that don’t have a clue.
think whatever xd as i said i can see i bruised your ego xd i asked questions when i didnt understand something thats how you learn but damn i guess you were born smart xd. not my shit to go in gods business xd. still im doing better than baiting people to play for me for 50% of their winnings because you cant fund your tests… and shadow is the scammer… sad
I never baited anyone to do anything, be quiet and don’t lie. Your goofy head started the topic of programming cause you didn’t recognize that i was talking about development speed is context of languages used, you clearly have a ton of complexes, but keep them for yourself.
You clearly don’t plan the talk about roulette cause you both don’t know much, so leave it, it’s not a clowns bar to make such a mess.
I think this is enough for you to take back what you said and stop thinking that we’re stupid. We’re not doing this for no reason — we’re simply not the kind of people you think we are.
xd i love ragebaiting you. why should we leave roulette? who are you to tell us to do something? who are you to tell us which programming language is good or good for “development speed”? who are you to tell us which way is right of doing it? Let me tell you A NOBODY… So you shut the hell up if you dont have something to say
The clown doesn’t even know that c++ is slower in development, scam man buddy and liar
This forum is for talking about roulette! it doesnt matter what way you are using or what programming language or how much you have made or what way you play! its about sharing information! some use opencv, some use js, some just have fun doing it, some are trying to live out of it. is it clear enough?