First off forester your answers to my questions were evasive and you didnt really answer them. You gave politician answers. You block my ip, lock my thread and accuse me of being stefano as an excuse to not answer questions.
Over the weekend and tonight I have read enough information about all this to write a book. He said I could say what I want on this forum and he wont ban me or delete my posts. So I asked him questions and said what I think then he says his last bit and locks my thread so I cant respond. Real good and honest of you forester. You say I am stefano so you have excuse to not respond.
Before anyone responds to my comments they should do their own reading instead of eating what forester feeds. Try http://www.roulettewars.com and your mind might change. I am telling you I really dont think forester is teling the truth with alot.
What I found about Stefano is he has alot of people cursing him. There are websites and forum posts everywhere (alot of people attack you also forester). But alot of these people do not appear credibel. It is obvious alot of posts are from mark howe pretending to be stefanos players or people that could be just anyone. So I have to listen to only people that are likely to be having dealt with stefano for real.
From that I know there is bago. But I see for a while he defended stefano. He had his computer 3 months you said and still defended him, then all of a sudden a change. Either bago didnt know what he was doing for a long time, or he did know what he was doing and like stefano says just made excuses to get a refund because he couldnt use it in france legally. I dont know the full story and only he will but I dont find bago a credible person. He attacks everything about stefano. One things for sure that bago seems to do anyting to hurt stefano which doesnt say alot for his credibility. Forester does this also which makes him look bad. So I look only at the technical information which is relevant which is the charts, and they are not random. Those charts tell you so much about accuracy. Bagos attacks on stefano are unnecessary and he can just rely on the charts if he was accurate about his accusations, but I dont think he understands them since he published them because they support stefano.
Then there are the charts and videos on stefanos site. No way are they due to ball distance to rotor accuracy of 1 in 30 like you say forester. Forester is probably hoping nobody will check themselves.
Ronjo the guy testing stefanos computer is very unlikely to be stefano. Forester says it is stefano. Wow everyone must be stefano because it is an easy answer ok forester? Stefano had sent his computers for tesrting to a guy lanky and another guy but they coulsdnt test. Then Ronjo got the computer. Alot of people say Ronjo is for sure not stefano. So why would stefano send his computer for open testing if he was lying? It doesnt make sense and all forester says is ronjo must be stefano. I am waiting to see what ronjo will say eagerly but even stafno says forester will just say ronjo is stefano.
I dont believe forester about the 6 people with stefanos computer because where are they? I would be so mad if I got scammed for $7500 and would tell everyone. Forester says they are threatened by stefano which is why they dont talk, but I dont buy that. Is this really one of your answers forester? See what I mean by stupid and evasive answers? If someone scams you then you dont give a shit about contracts or threats and report them. The more you say forester the more I see what stefano says about your tactics and lies is actyually true.
I am not going to deal with mark howe I really dont like the sound of him. So it is between forester and stefano. It is normal that two sellers argue about each other so I forget about the rubbish comments.
On foresters hand there are a few people on his forum saying it is good. These people could be novices. Then there is one professional tester that says his computer gives near random predictions. I can believe this if foresters computer does not even calculate for things like air pressure changes. It is one thing to test on a spin again and again, but another to play in real casinos. From what I see of foresters comp. it makes estimations and assumptions, not calculations of real wheel behavior. This can and probably still can get an edge but not with every wheel.
On stefanos hand there are a lot of people attacking him but there are actually probably more who credit him, but they dont has as many posts. they could be stefano I dont know but only hard data is relevant. Most of people attacking him dont appear to have actually had anything to do with him, so they say is based on assumptions which arent proof of anyting. So when I look at the important information only, not the name calling or possible fake names, I dont see any hard evidence of scam. The hard data I do see suggests not a scam. probably that is why forester locks threads.
So I am choosing between a professionals report on forester’s computer, and attackers of stefano who dont show proof of scam, except bago who shows a chart but it more proves accuracy. what am I supposed to believe in this case? it is obviously not a scam but forester just calls it that because he doesnt like stefano. I have seen enough to know people attack stefano for personal reasons, and nobody credible needs to rely on junk to discredit someone if it is really a scam.
With consideration of all things, I believe both stefanos and foresters computers would achieve an edge. It is more about which is better. So has anyone here actually got stefanos computer and can give me very clear proof it is a scam. Or even his system which might be proof of dishonesty. About his system I have a document about it from his site and I know that the methods are legitimate advantage play. This makes me think people attacking him do so unjustly.
Everyone here should not rely on word of others and especially forester. I believe it is very clear he is a very smart liar like stefano says. He has tried to discredit stefano by changing information and holding information back.
Now I am telling you I am not stefano like forester says. I just want to know the truth so I can buy the better computer. I maybe cannot expect unbiased information here on foresters forum, but I am after real proof of stefanos scam. I dont want to know about where he lives or who said what about this or that. I want hard evidence and data.
I have more questions for you forester:
QUESTION: I have asked around and read a lot and Ronjo is definately not stefano. You say one thing but a lot more other people say the opposite. So I dont believe you. Why would stefano send his computer for testing if what you say about him is real? He sent it to three people. I am watching Ronjo closely and what he says.
QUESTION: If stefano computers give 1 to 30 for distance to rotor, then why does he get 1 in 16 hits over two consecutive spreads of 50 spins? He also shows the scatter charts to show not it isnt luck. If what you said about 1 in 30 for distance to rotor were true, there is no way he could do that.
QUESTION: I have seen some of stefanos material and he teaches a lot of legitimate advantage play. How you call him a scammer and dont even mention this is very suspicious like you just want to dsicredit the guy. It seems clear stefano teaches the same things as laiurence scott but you dont call him scammer because he doesnt sell computers. Stefano says about this on his roulette wars site and even mark does it. Can you explain this?
These are hard questions for you forester and I am sure you will give politician answers. I expect your answers will be that stefano is ronjo, stefano probably doesnt teach adv. play, and stefano did a scam video for his videos but sorry that doesnt cut it. There are to many people supporting ronjo is not stefano, and the video would be too hard to fake.
When you spoke about barnett all i read from you is excuses. He determined your computer was near random. You might have real people here that say the opposite, but you have to remember that barnett is a professional who would have tested in real conditions, and the others here think you can check a computer on a single spin so no wonder they think you are good.
Sorry I just think you are a liar forester. I can understand why you lie but it is not honest or reputable and you should be ashamed. I did my work and lots of reading. Stefano calls you a very smart liar and I believe that is what you are.
Irregardless I do believe your computer can get an edge, but that you lie about what it can do like barnett found.
I do think I am wasting my time here because i will not get clear answers from you forester. It is just so simple when I look at “what counts”. So you attack stefano with every little thing and make yourself look stupid to people that know better. I dont think you will give up and admit it which tells me alot about you also.
I hope you all do your reading and take from my research what you will.