Forester did you lock the other thread? I cant reply on it. I said I will come back to you with more questions when i read more.
To me it looks you accuse me of being stefano for an excuse to avoid answering questions. This does not seem an honest thing to do. If you are honest then why dont you answer my questions instead of locking threads?
Because I do not want to discuss stupidities, that is all.
Thread is not locked for reading. You could clearly read that you should go back to your “professional” roulette wars, and leave your kids with ex pedophile. So good luck.
And can you please stop hiding IP. If you have something to say then say it as a man and do not hide behind proxy server. After you ill cry that I ve blocked you.
Sirry forester I am not stefano. At that start you said you would not censor my posts. Then things get to hard for you so you say your last bit, then lock my threads and accuse me of being stefano because the questions are to hard for you. You are a very clever liar forester and are very careful of what you say, but still a liar.
Skiman you are still logging in to this forum and hiding your IP.
I will not block you but I will block that IP.
Yes things got hard for me and I do not want to discuss about Stefano, because every discussion is pointless, and only takes my time. I prefare to talk about good things.
For past 2 years he was trying to hurt me and to sabotage this site, he set me up so I lost my email forester747, On that account I had all my business contacts. I really do not need to deal with such dirty and dishonest people who are looking how to stub me from the back.
If you want the door is widely open for you, just go who cares what you think and do.
This forum mostly exists so users of my system can communicate together. If someone new comes he is welcome as long he respects this forum. If you find that this forum is not constructed by your specification I can’t help you. Search the net and join some other place.
i love how people want to talk shit about things that they know nothing about skiman you think foster is some scammer and is scarred to answer your questions. then fuck off who are you to chalnge a man of his caliber. notice how every one who bought fosters device talks like he is god. why do you think that is dumb ass. go buy some that wont work you dumb ass.
Irony is that I did answer his questions.
Check the thread http://rouletteplace.com/index.php/topic,593.0.html
I even quoted his questions. His problem is that he doesn’t like answers.
Look at the thread and calculate how many hours in writing is in there
There is so much information around read it, then it is everybody’s choice, what to do with it. I know that many people told me that they wish they found this site much earlier since my explanations are very logical and backed up by facts. And that is what is killing scammers.
First off forester your answers to my questions were evasive and you didnt really answer them. You gave politician answers. You block my ip, lock my thread and accuse me of being stefano as an excuse to not answer questions.
Over the weekend and tonight I have read enough information about all this to write a book. He said I could say what I want on this forum and he wont ban me or delete my posts. So I asked him questions and said what I think then he says his last bit and locks my thread so I cant respond. Real good and honest of you forester. You say I am stefano so you have excuse to not respond.
Before anyone responds to my comments they should do their own reading instead of eating what forester feeds. Try http://www.roulettewars.com and your mind might change. I am telling you I really dont think forester is teling the truth with alot.
What I found about Stefano is he has alot of people cursing him. There are websites and forum posts everywhere (alot of people attack you also forester). But alot of these people do not appear credibel. It is obvious alot of posts are from mark howe pretending to be stefanos players or people that could be just anyone. So I have to listen to only people that are likely to be having dealt with stefano for real.
From that I know there is bago. But I see for a while he defended stefano. He had his computer 3 months you said and still defended him, then all of a sudden a change. Either bago didnt know what he was doing for a long time, or he did know what he was doing and like stefano says just made excuses to get a refund because he couldnt use it in france legally. I dont know the full story and only he will but I dont find bago a credible person. He attacks everything about stefano. One things for sure that bago seems to do anyting to hurt stefano which doesnt say alot for his credibility. Forester does this also which makes him look bad. So I look only at the technical information which is relevant which is the charts, and they are not random. Those charts tell you so much about accuracy. Bagos attacks on stefano are unnecessary and he can just rely on the charts if he was accurate about his accusations, but I dont think he understands them since he published them because they support stefano.
Then there are the charts and videos on stefanos site. No way are they due to ball distance to rotor accuracy of 1 in 30 like you say forester. Forester is probably hoping nobody will check themselves.
Ronjo the guy testing stefanos computer is very unlikely to be stefano. Forester says it is stefano. Wow everyone must be stefano because it is an easy answer ok forester? Stefano had sent his computers for tesrting to a guy lanky and another guy but they coulsdnt test. Then Ronjo got the computer. Alot of people say Ronjo is for sure not stefano. So why would stefano send his computer for open testing if he was lying? It doesnt make sense and all forester says is ronjo must be stefano. I am waiting to see what ronjo will say eagerly but even stafno says forester will just say ronjo is stefano.
I dont believe forester about the 6 people with stefanos computer because where are they? I would be so mad if I got scammed for $7500 and would tell everyone. Forester says they are threatened by stefano which is why they dont talk, but I dont buy that. Is this really one of your answers forester? See what I mean by stupid and evasive answers? If someone scams you then you dont give a shit about contracts or threats and report them. The more you say forester the more I see what stefano says about your tactics and lies is actyually true.
I am not going to deal with mark howe I really dont like the sound of him. So it is between forester and stefano. It is normal that two sellers argue about each other so I forget about the rubbish comments.
On foresters hand there are a few people on his forum saying it is good. These people could be novices. Then there is one professional tester that says his computer gives near random predictions. I can believe this if foresters computer does not even calculate for things like air pressure changes. It is one thing to test on a spin again and again, but another to play in real casinos. From what I see of foresters comp. it makes estimations and assumptions, not calculations of real wheel behavior. This can and probably still can get an edge but not with every wheel.
On stefanos hand there are a lot of people attacking him but there are actually probably more who credit him, but they dont has as many posts. they could be stefano I dont know but only hard data is relevant. Most of people attacking him dont appear to have actually had anything to do with him, so they say is based on assumptions which arent proof of anyting. So when I look at the important information only, not the name calling or possible fake names, I dont see any hard evidence of scam. The hard data I do see suggests not a scam. probably that is why forester locks threads.
So I am choosing between a professionals report on forester’s computer, and attackers of stefano who dont show proof of scam, except bago who shows a chart but it more proves accuracy. what am I supposed to believe in this case? it is obviously not a scam but forester just calls it that because he doesnt like stefano. I have seen enough to know people attack stefano for personal reasons, and nobody credible needs to rely on junk to discredit someone if it is really a scam.
With consideration of all things, I believe both stefanos and foresters computers would achieve an edge. It is more about which is better. So has anyone here actually got stefanos computer and can give me very clear proof it is a scam. Or even his system which might be proof of dishonesty. About his system I have a document about it from his site and I know that the methods are legitimate advantage play. This makes me think people attacking him do so unjustly.
Everyone here should not rely on word of others and especially forester. I believe it is very clear he is a very smart liar like stefano says. He has tried to discredit stefano by changing information and holding information back.
Now I am telling you I am not stefano like forester says. I just want to know the truth so I can buy the better computer. I maybe cannot expect unbiased information here on foresters forum, but I am after real proof of stefanos scam. I dont want to know about where he lives or who said what about this or that. I want hard evidence and data.
I have more questions for you forester:
QUESTION: I have asked around and read a lot and Ronjo is definately not stefano. You say one thing but a lot more other people say the opposite. So I dont believe you. Why would stefano send his computer for testing if what you say about him is real? He sent it to three people. I am watching Ronjo closely and what he says.
QUESTION: If stefano computers give 1 to 30 for distance to rotor, then why does he get 1 in 16 hits over two consecutive spreads of 50 spins? He also shows the scatter charts to show not it isnt luck. If what you said about 1 in 30 for distance to rotor were true, there is no way he could do that.
QUESTION: I have seen some of stefanos material and he teaches a lot of legitimate advantage play. How you call him a scammer and dont even mention this is very suspicious like you just want to dsicredit the guy. It seems clear stefano teaches the same things as laiurence scott but you dont call him scammer because he doesnt sell computers. Stefano says about this on his roulette wars site and even mark does it. Can you explain this?
These are hard questions for you forester and I am sure you will give politician answers. I expect your answers will be that stefano is ronjo, stefano probably doesnt teach adv. play, and stefano did a scam video for his videos but sorry that doesnt cut it. There are to many people supporting ronjo is not stefano, and the video would be too hard to fake.
When you spoke about barnett all i read from you is excuses. He determined your computer was near random. You might have real people here that say the opposite, but you have to remember that barnett is a professional who would have tested in real conditions, and the others here think you can check a computer on a single spin so no wonder they think you are good.
Sorry I just think you are a liar forester. I can understand why you lie but it is not honest or reputable and you should be ashamed. I did my work and lots of reading. Stefano calls you a very smart liar and I believe that is what you are.
Irregardless I do believe your computer can get an edge, but that you lie about what it can do like barnett found.
I do think I am wasting my time here because i will not get clear answers from you forester. It is just so simple when I look at “what counts”. So you attack stefano with every little thing and make yourself look stupid to people that know better. I dont think you will give up and admit it which tells me alot about you also.
I hope you all do your reading and take from my research what you will.
Yes, I blocked your IP because you logged in using scamming server.
Now you use same server with different IP.
Can you please stop scamming this forum or I will block and server and you name and IP. If you want to say something then does not use anonymous servers to hide your real location.
QUESTION: I have asked around and read a lot and Ronjo is definately not stefano. You say one thing but a lot more other people say the opposite. So I dont believe you. Why would stefano send his computer for testing if what you say about him is real? He sent it to three people. I am watching Ronjo closely and what he says.
QUESTION: If stefano computers give 1 to 30 for distance to rotor, then why does he get 1 in 16 hits over two consecutive spreads of 50 spins? He also shows the scatter charts to show not it isnt luck. If what you said about 1 in 30 for distance to rotor were true, there is no way he could do that.
QUESTION: I have seen some of stefanos material and he teaches a lot of legitimate advantage play. How you call him a scammer and dont even mention this is very suspicious like you just want to dsicredit the guy. It seems clear stefano teaches the same things as laiurence scott but you dont call him scammer because he doesnt sell computers. Stefano says about this on his roulette wars site and even mark does it. Can you explain this?
Skiman is blocked for using scamming IP address.
Hiding, his identity and location. Wondering who that might be.
Anyway I will make his last wish.
if you cant find info on line that sfeno is a scammer. you most not be on line much. i have stefenos 2500.00 system it is garbge i give it away for free. now the ffa you would have to pry from my dead body. so dont come back here your not welcome.no one wants to read your bull shit. this forum was made so people that have foster devices. can get to gether and talk about are trubles winnings and what works and does not.foster is a man of his word. so get lost skiman you jerk off!
Please Forester, don’t waste any more time on this guy.
It’s not worth your effort.
OK, as you say! crogirl 
jaybird21
Now when hundreds of people have his system for free, Stefano is claiming that isn’t all but that he knows more but for him to teach you first you have to earn his trust. Blablabla…
Stefanos statements is a never ending story.
What do you expect a scammer saying to stay in business when his system “dynamic roulette system” has been released for free long time ago? In the introduction of the ebook you can read that he delivered what he promised: a system with which you can earn a living from.
Not only, he adds titles like: “Beating online Casinos”. More funny in the VB system section, he claims you can have an edge on LEVEL wheels with his VB system which is based on wheel and ball speed aproximations!.
A device like Forester’s which calculates very precisely the actual speed of the ball and the wheel is only good for tilted wheel, and Stefano’s VB based on approximations beat level wheels. Give me a break.
After all those empty promises that are clear for educated and real roulette players, he just had to change his mind telling that it is not his system at all, it’s just an introduction of his most powerfull methods like “custom variants”.
Problem, all his videos on his john huxley wheel and online casinos show dealer signature betting, at casinowebcam the guy plays the sector located at +5 pockets EVERYTIME from where the ball last landed: ex outcome number 4, the predicted sector is 34 and neighbours.
Against another wheel at livewheel.tv , same rubbish, the guy plays same sector ball last landed and bet also directly opposite (vis vis).
Also as Bago mentionned, Stefano claims he is using a custom variant on his video demonstration but the graph displaying the pocket distances between his predictions and where ball last landed tells otherwise. He is betting massively at minus 13 pockets where ball last landed, showing clearly again dealer signature.
So after all those proof, i wonder how could someone THINK one minute Stefano’s genuinewinner system is not what is contained in his ebook.
The device is also good for leveled wheels 
More funny in the VB system section, he claims you can have an edge on LEVEL wheels with his VB system which is based on wheel and ball speed aproximations!.A device like Forester’s which calculates very precisely the actual speed of the ball and the wheel is only good for tilted wheel, and Stefano’s VB based on approximations beat level wheels. Give me a break.
That was the shortest but most to logical statement. You’ll see, one day when you get updated version of GW it will be removed. That is what he is doing all the time “improving scam”, and he will say we were just lying.
With his mobile phone he did have delay in pronouncing numbers more then one sec.
(you can see it on Bago’s video)
He was justifying it as computer is doing very complex calculations when it was only time needed to initiate audio player.
When I made statement that it should be improved because roulette computer can’t afford to lose one second in time he call me a liar. I do not know did he improve it but whatever it is, does it mean that his computer now doesn’t do complicated calculations?
So Billy the kid, since you sent me emails that someone will sent you FFA so you can access FFA’s software and copy it, what has happened? You stopped sending me emails and asking questions.
