Is it possible to take advantage at a leveled roulette table?


#1

Hello, my name is Tim and I am new on this forum.
Im very interested in visual ballistics, but I am a complete noob in it. I ve read some interesting topics on this forum and I hope someone could answer my question. (subject)

Ps. Could you give me any tips on how to start with visual ballistics?

Thanx in advance,

Tim


#2

Welcome to the forum TIM …

You have two options, you can buy a roulette computer and getting support from Forester among others at this forum.
That way you will learn basics about visual ballistic and how roulette computer works.

The other option is to learn visual ballistic by it self ,
Or you can combine both …

Good luck …

Kelly’s blog (Advantage play).
http://wheelwatchersopinion.blogspot.se/

Laurance Scott (Advantage play).
http://www.advantageplayer.com/roulette/

Foresters roulette computers (Advantage play).

Masters’Roulette (Advantage play).

Jafco (Advantage play).
http://www.jafcoroulette.com/


#3

[quote=“lucky_strike, post:2, topic:986”]Welcome to the forum TIM …

You have two options, you can buy a roulette computer and getting support from Forester among others at this forum.
That way you will learn basics about visual ballistic and how roulette computer works.

The other option is to learn visual ballistic by it self ,
Or you can combine both …

Good luck …

Kelly’s blog (Advantage play).
http://wheelwatchersopinion.blogspot.se/

Laurance Scott (Advantage play).
http://www.advantageplayer.com/roulette/

Foresters roulette computers (Advantage play).

Masters’Roulette (Advantage play).

Jafco (Advantage play).
http://www.jafcoroulette.com/[/quote]

Thank you very much for responding. I will have a look on the links soon.
Are there people on this forum who really won with roulette on a real casino using VB? And was it a tilted table? Did you have a computer or did you just use your own skills? I am very curious, let me know.


#4
Are there people on this forum who really won with roulette on a real casino using VB?

Yes using roulette computers and some can do it with out computer.

Here is a nice topic getting you started (Evolution of roulettes advantage play).
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=1019.0

And was it a tilted table?

Well in the past you could find a wheel where the ball hit one deflector 7 times out of 10.
Then you had a strong bias or tilt.

But todays wheels are different.
Forester made a good topic about degree of tilt.

(Understanding roulette wheel and exploiting possibilities).
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=1481.0

Did you have a computer or did you just use your own skills?

I think a good solution is having both.

Cheers


#5

I agree with LS.

Both. I would suggest learning vb simply because if you understand it then RC will be much easier to use. Having said that I would suggest you go for RC for real play. Acrobat 2 is really good. Having said that! I use both vb2 from Forester as well as Acrobat RC. Some days I do not feel comfortable with RC on me, then I just play vb.

So learn vb whether you planning to buy RC or not. Still very beneficial to understand the fundamentals. Also you will understand scatter better and what conditions to play and what not.


#6

[quote=“Toxic, post:5, topic:986”]I agree with LS.

Both. I would suggest learning vb simply because if you understand it then RC will be much easier to use. Having said that I would suggest you go for RC for real play. Acrobat 2 is really good. Having said that! I use both vb2 from Forester as well as Acrobat RC. Some days I do not feel comfortable with RC on me, then I just play vb.

So learn vb whether you planning to buy RC or not. Still very beneficial to understand the fundamentals. Also you will understand scatter better and what conditions to play and what not.[/quote]

I thank you both for your quick answers.
But where I live in Holland, there is only one casino where you can play roulette on a reel table (Holland casino). This is a government casino where there is a lot of security who watches the tables. I think a computer would be easy to detect?
But if you predict a number with your own visual skills, how precise are you? Between 5 pockets or 10 pockets of the predicted number, or maybe more? Sorry for being in a noob on roulette, but I will learn fast, I hope…

Cheers


#7
But where I live in Holland, there is only one casino where you can play roulette on a reel table (Holland casino). This is a government casino where there is a lot of security who watches the tables.

If you going to be very serious about playing, then you also might thinking about traveling.

I think a computer would be easy to detect?

I can not answer this.
All i know is that it exist pretty clever ways to hide roulette computer and the clicking.

But if you predict a number with your own visual skills, how precise are you?

It depends upon what kind of degree of tilt and conditions you deal with.


#8

I just came from the casino in my town. And this were the conditions;

The ball was spinning about 10-12 rounds each time.
The dealer spins the ball clockwise and then anticlockwise
The roter seems stabil at 3seconds p/round. (clocked it many times)
The duration of the spin was ± 14/15 seconds
The dealer said ‘No more Bets’ 3/4 rounds before the ball drops in the pocket. ( seems quite late and maybe could get an advantage?)
The table had 16 diamonds, but I did not saw a dominant diamond.

Do you see an oppertunity to get an advantage? I have read somewhere here in the forum that you could predict the ball 6 rounds before the end?


#9

How did you track for dd? Seperately for cw and ccw?


#10

Timotietje are you from Europa ?

Learn and memorize the number ring.
Find a way to estimate ball and learn how to get offset.
Study how to explore 2 and 3 pin game.

Tilt …
I am not an expert with wheels with many deflectors, but i assume principals is the same.

This is a picture of dominant zone with one wheel with many deflectors.
As you can see they chop into same area.

I reckon that some deflectors next to each other donate ball jumps into same direction towards same high probability area.
That is the main idea and how we deal with 8 deflectors having cw ball and acw rotor.

Then come other factors like optimal speed where everything correlate.
As Toxic mention, you should track cw and acw directions.

You might try PM Kelly and see if he can give you a hint …


#11

ı try to understand forester’s e2 system for leveled wheels.we measure ball for 4.5 sec but when we have to start measuring?and what about rotor speed?how we adjust different rotor speeds?ı understood multiplying with 3 but this parts are miissing.and can we do it without equipment?regards…