# How important is math for an AP?

I guess few of us realized how important math is to understand event we witness.
In my case, I wish I studied math and phisics instead of law.
I believe it is not loose work to know accurately our edge as soon as possible. Few of us are capable to calculate it without taking huge data.
The first step must identify whether we have an edge or not, the second is to determine if it breaks the even point, then, we should try to get +5% egde or more to work more comfortable.
I opened this topic to talk about the edge and math.
We donot need to say how we get the edge.

best regards

Using Math for AP? What a silly concept! lol

I wish I paid attention more in school too. It’s amazing how much you lose when you are not surrounded by it. Thankfully there are solutions floating around. Youtube is a great source of information when it comes to teaching advanced concepts visually. And there are a ton of moral lessons in what NOT to do around moving vehicles! Great stuff!

There’s not much need for math when playing roulette - at least nothing too extreme when wondering if you’re ahead or not.

If you are betting 5 numbers on a 37 number wheel; you need to win AT LEAST one time every 7 bets to receive a positive outcome.

If you are designing a roulette computer; you need a lot more than math and physics knowledge.

I don’t understand how much “math” and/or “physics” you feel you might need as I don’t know what you think you may need it for.

If your pile is diminishing [pile of chips] you’re losing - if it is getting larger; you’re winning: is about as basic a way of telling how you’re doing as you can get.

In AP bisiness time is gold.
A regular player may be ahead many days due to simple luck.
As fluctuations can fool you easily we must know the real facts.

[quote=“eirescott, post:3, topic:928”]There’s not much need for math when playing roulette - at least nothing too extreme when wondering if you’re ahead or not.

If you are betting 5 numbers on a 37 number wheel; you need to win AT LEAST one time every 7 bets to receive a positive outcome.

If you are designing a roulette computer; you need a lot more than math and physics knowledge.

I don’t understand how much “math” and/or “physics” you feel you might need as I don’t know what you think you may need it for.

If your pile is diminishing [pile of chips] you’re losing - if it is getting larger; you’re winning: is about as basic a way of telling how you’re doing as you can get.[/quote]

Well, if you would use a progression after these 7 losses, you can still come out positive am I right?

What does AP stand for? :-/

Progressions only serve to compound an edge. So if the edge is negative -5.25% in favour of the house, then the losses are compounded. If the edge is positive, 20% in favour of the player, then the winnings are compounded. The time it takes in between are fluctuations and there is no real telling how long that could be. At times, even with a positive edge, you can still bump into the table max.

AP means Advantage Play. Advantage being the key word here. You need to first have a positive edge that is consistent and measurable. Wanting it is not enough.

Regarding a progression: Keep it simple. When playing conditions are good, bet more. When conditions are weak, bet less. Don’t try and run a progression down to the nickle. If you’re playing VB correctly, then the amount bet will vary from one spin to the next. This also looks more natural to the casino.