# FFZ - On how much numbers is recommended to bet?

Hello everyone,

I’m considering to buy FFZ roulette computer. And I have a question, on how much numbers should I bet. I heard that on 6 numbers is best option, but I want to hear you thoughts.

For example if computers predicts number 6, on what numbers should I bet?

Thank You very much

[quote=“elussive, post:1, topic:970”]Hello everyone,

I’m considering to buy FFZ roulette computer. And I have a question, on how much numbers should I bet. I heard that on 6 numbers is best option, but I want to hear you thoughts.

For example if computers predicts number 6, on what numbers should I bet?

Thank You very much[/quote]It depends of the conditions. .l would make an analysis of the scatter, more or less 300 spins, separated by diamond hitt and rotor velocity . Then, after having this data, you will see where is your advantage lokated and how many numbers you have to bet… hope it helps. Ffz is a good thing, but it is just a tool to help you. Its just as good as you are… Probably you would be better to lern to beat the wheel without it, and after it will become a great help to you.

The higher the amount of numbers bet, the higher the fluctuations. You need to be VERY good at catching mistakes. For example, Suppose I bet half the wheel with 18 numbers, and I screw up a couple things and end up on the wrong side of the wheel, and it takes me 2-3 spins to realize this. By the time I find out, I am already down 54 units. I also know I am stubborn son of a bitch who wouldn’t figure out I was wrong until long after 2-3 spins. Suppose you only cover 3 numbers. You need 12 spins to break even. So even if you find your mistake out by spin number 8, you still have 4 spins after to get your positive edge back. Think about how catastrophic 8 spins with a bad read would be when betting half the wheel! Fewer numbers, are a safer place to start and then add more as you gain experience. The numbers don’t need to be connected either. Just on the right side of the wheel.

One other thing you should avoid doing, and this is a common mistake. Suppose you play 3 connected numbers and it hits 1 away. So you add two numbers from 3 to now 5 numbers. Then you miss by 1 again. so you add to 7. Then to 9! When you do things like that, your predictions may not be as good because you are not getting excited and feeling more pressure. You are getting impulsive. It’s more a VB problem, but the same concepts apply to RC play. You need to be slow and methodical so you can catch and minimize your mistakes. Don’t go through to trouble of buying an RC only to go to the casino and gamble with it.

Just my two cents.

[quote=“Davey-Jones, post:3, topic:970”]The higher the amount of numbers bet, the higher the fluctuations. You need to be VERY good at catching mistakes. For example, Suppose I bet half the wheel with 18 numbers, and I screw up a couple things and end up on the wrong side of the wheel, and it takes me 2-3 spins to realize this. By the time I find out, I am already down 54 units. I also know I am stubborn son of a bitch who wouldn’t figure out I was wrong until long after 2-3 spins. Suppose you only cover 3 numbers. You need 12 spins to break even. So even if you find your mistake out by spin number 8, you still have 4 spins after to get your positive edge back. Think about how catastrophic 8 spins with a bad read would be when betting half the wheel! Fewer numbers, are a safer place to start and then add more as you gain experience. The numbers don’t need to be connected either. Just on the right side of the wheel.

One other thing you should avoid doing, and this is a common mistake. Suppose you play 3 connected numbers and it hits 1 away. So you add two numbers from 3 to now 5 numbers. Then you miss by 1 again. so you add to 7. Then to 9! When you do things like that, your predictions may not be as good because you are not getting excited and feeling more pressure. You are getting impulsive. It’s more a VB problem, but the same concepts apply to RC play. You need to be slow and methodical so you can catch and minimize your mistakes. Don’t go through to trouble of buying an RC only to go to the casino and gamble with it.

Just my two cents.[/quote]

Nice post, Davey!

The higher the amount of numbers bet, the higher the fluctuations.
Davey that is very big mistake to think this way. Higer amount of bet numbers gives less disperssion and gives more stable results.
Suppose I bet half the wheel with 18 numbers, and I screw up a couple things and end up on the wrong side of the wheel
When you begin to bet you must know which side is wrong which is good and that you must do without investing money at all. And you must know not only which side is good but also why this side is good. For this reason you must calibrate your predictions - it is look at how stable is ball falling place acordingly yours predictions and look to how stable are scatering from falling point. At the end we have two frames - one is where ball fall acordingly our prediction - other is scatering frame from falling point. When we put them bouth to one group we will see reall result and we will see positive places and negative places.

We must place bets on as many positive places as we can, no matter if that will be 18 , 27 or 3 pockets. So number of covering frame depends not on that fact that with 3 we will spent less money - it must depend on mathematical calculattions. I can give you simple example say 18 pockets on the wheel have possitive edge and 19 have negative edge. When we cover 18 pockets of course we cant cover ideally, but we always will cover more positive pockets than negative lets say we cover 12 positive and 6 negative in averidge -6 and +6 gives for us 0 and we stay in situattion when we always cover only 6 positive pockets.

When we cover only 6 pockets and we cover 1 or 2 bad pockets that means not only that we cover 1/3 bad but the same that we cover theese 4 goods which realy are on the border of goods pockets so they really are about 0 pockets. And one more we can have all hits in that 18 good pockets frame and still lost quite many if we cover 3 pockets simply because bad luck. When we play we must avoid luck factor and do it as small as possible.

How many pockeets to bet is very important questtion and here players mostly do wrong decissions. Try to learn statistical distributtions and use them in counting best number of covering frame. Sometimes you can be surprised how big can change result right choosing that number.

All that aside, without a racetrack, it is impractical to be able to individually place bets for any more than 12 numbers. Here (Canada/US), we typically have to place our own bets. Betting fewer numbers after the spin looks better than laying out huge sectors of connected numbers. I get what you are saying, but I am also talking about bankroll management. I don’t see it as flawed thinking. I can have 18 numbers covered with a stop loss of two losing spins or I can take that same amount of cash and bet three numbers for 12 spins or 5 numbers for 7.

At the worst case, I am getting a few more spins of practice. And if I am really damn good at what I do, my profit margin goes up. But I am not here preaching right ways vs wrong ways. VB is very much and individual skill on a personal level. Some guys like betting more numbers, and with my VB I find it impractical. Perhaps your VB is really only good at hitting half the wheel and can’t hit smaller zones. I try to have all my hits within a 5 number arc and if I am doing it correctly my misses will almost always be on the right half of the wheel. At the end of the day, I want to make a good profit as much as the next guy and I find covering a few numbers in the area with the most hits is the way to go. Having said all that, I still say it must be nice to have a racetrack.

All that aside, without a racetrack, it is impractical to be able to individually place bets for any more than 12 numbers.
That is other thing, that you usually have not enough time or possibilities to place such big amount of numbers. But that is also mostly matter of skill. The main question is what is better - to do 1 bet 18 numbers or 6 bets 3numbers. So what i want to say is - if we have advantage ( about other we not talk at all ) - we still can lost, because bad luck. Where that bad luck have more space - when you place less numbers. So 18 numbers = 6 bets by 3 numbers. If we can do say 200 bets per evening - that mean that when we covering 18 numbers is about the same as covering 3 numbers and do 1200 bets. More bets = more stability. You can count STD on 200 bets and on 1200 and look to diferences.

I can give one more example - lets say we play bias and we found 18 numbers which gives us positive result. How many numbers we must cover - of course all 18 positive numbers. If here we will cover only three in 5 of 6 spins we will have loss where we can have win. We not need to grow up disperssion when we have edge. We must stabily take what depends for us.

if I am doing it correctly my misses will almost always be on the right half of the wheel

Here i sugest to do simply ball scatering chart and after, imitate play on ideal condittions - when you exact know ball faling place. And count chance to be in plus after some numbers of spins. That will give answer about what we here discuss.