Cammegh Roulette Random rotor deceleration

till now, no need for weapons. FFZ is enough :smiley:

If I find out that someone uses the FFZ as a weapon for torching I’ll stop selling it. :stuck_out_tongue:

oh ""master forester, please don’t do that. I promiss I will never again leave burned earth behind me, when I use FFZ ;D

Gentlemen, i think for now FF users have nothing to worry about PROVIDING they do not play online, for it specifically says "The patented RRC innovation is designed specifically for the On-Line Gaming sector ". I take it that this means that the RRC mercury random-speed generating device is ONLY LEGALLY allowed to be used in online casinos, not live-ground casinos.

[quote=“securityman, post:6, topic:599”]Nice one Brian

Here its law! At point when ball has impact with rotor,speed of rotor must be at a minumum of 10 PKts/sec ( Fact/period)

But!!!

The more bad press we can give this the better ,Im used to seeing this in EU all over with airball/slingshot for the obviuos reasons

We got to use scare tactics here ,like,ahh so if a section of the wheel is heavy with bets casino could try to steer rotor away from this section

OOh COME ON CRUOPIER/PITBOSS IT COULD BE PROGRAMMED TO DO SO,eh well what you think(as the table is packed full with punters

or

Hell its why dont you save the money and let the cruopier do it by hand

Ohhhhhhhh it would LOOK like cheating to the public ,I , supose

actually Im very surprised this coming out or being thought of ,the casino industry in the past have made (over a long period of time) some sudtle changes as theyre awair of general publics responce to big changes in rules ,look on layout ,even calling NMBs earlier and there paranoia too!!!

I think honestly it might come(in LV where it would be probaly marketed to the publics taste,sort of hollywood style) but in the very far future an AP is here to stay but will be ever have an increasingly dificult hobby/job to pursue

Ok let have a look at this for what it really is

  1. packed table
  2. Your with Secman N, Co (yes ,the quiete shy guy from foresters forum,cough)
    3 Just before NMbs comes the BIG CALL on 7 2 2 @ HMax
  3. Right from the back ,pushing through,making himselfed noticed saying out loud ,hell let me through I got ta see this
  4. ball strikes zeeero
  5. Secman shouts out ,DID YOU SEE THAT , COME ON YOU ALL MUST OF SAW THAT , SECMANs team memebers say ,hell we saw that all right ,public shout what what???
    DINT YOU SEE THAT, the wheela Actually speeded up!!!
  6. Pitboss/cruopier/sceptical member of the public say ,LOL you got to be kiding ,why n the hell would the casion= want to do that???;REPLY YOU WANT TO BET!!! on that Mister ,get the video rewound and lets ALL have a loook!!!
    Ok I think you get the picture

The thing is theses BXXXXXs are seriuos ,do they honestly think the public would allow this for 5 mins

pheew after reading my own post ,it has actually cammeigmned me down quite quickly

Ok thy for posting that Duffy

can we catch up on msn??? and when we going to meet in xxxxxxxx

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Hi everybody, been doing some online wheel scouting, and i have a feeling certain casinos which i have seen to have NEAR PERFECT conditions for VB and advantage players might have the cammegh rotor-speed changing wheels. I believe that this speed change is extremely subtle, as i timed a video of this speed changing wheel from the Cammegh website itself, (from when 0 made 1 full rotation) for every spin, and i discovered that my timer could not pick up any detectable wheel speed change in the product. The only change i could pick up was 0.1 seconds, and this might have been due to my human-reaction time inaccuracies. Perhaps the speed change is so minute that it is undetectable to an ordinary timer. Anyways, the product claims to thwart Advantage players in their tracks, however maybe the FF device still stands a chance due to the random rotor speed changes not being so extreme. your thoughts?

I believe that before betting the wheel must be observed and to see if the drop zone of the ball that FF tells me is correct.If the zone of fall is then too times different from that said from FF maybe it is a wheel like Mercury 360 RRC.

Very bad news. We should be naive to think that they will use this only for online. And for sure huxley will come with something equivalent to close the competitional gap. Could this be the end of roulette advantage playing?

doesnt eliminate bias

Indeed, but it eliminates vb and ff

depends how much the speed changes.

In the deceleration example the final result is 20 instead of 4. Unless somebody plays black, it is a decisive speed change. :smiley:

I fixed video link to the first post but here it is again.

The video below shows Random Rotor Speed in action. In both games, the same wheel is spun twice at 20 rpm. RRS is switched off for the left-hand spin and active for the right. Despite both wheels being synchronised at the beginning, by the time the ball enters the rotor, the right-hand wheel with RRS enabled has a different rotor angle to the left-hand wheel and the ball lands in a different sector.

The CaMMEGH Mercury 360 RRS roulette wheel looks identical to the standard [Mercury 360]

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I believe i just came across one.
It is impossible for ff to have a perfect zap and the ball drop but the rotor in opposite position.
I tried few spins to time with zaps ff makes but i couldn’t see the difference. I need a lap timer.

It’s so easy - just try measuring the rotor for few spins and will see directly what happens :man_shrugging:

The problem is it is not in every spin, so the test may need more time.

When i look the video it looks as the rotor slows down from ~ 3.8s to 4.6
Average rotor speed would be 4.2s it would make about 18 pockets difference on 30s long spin as on the video. Since the FF doesn’t have to clock rotor at the start and calculates it only from last ball click for say 15s time deceleration would be much higher to get 18 pockets difference.

I think you should not worry about RRS. Since its target group is, online casinos.

i dont know why i see that now and not before . it does not matter . i see today . this ones need more study and other things but it is not all as video shows . it are beateables but on other form.

Slingshot 2 doesn’t work as you say. It has not one only change it as some changes at this changes have minimum and maxim . and total maxim . is difficult because without rrs you have a sector of maybe five numbers, but with rrs, you have now a sector of 25 numbers. But it is not impossible to beat. is not random in all points .

The casinos I normally play now have changed their wheels to the cammegh ones with rrs system, even some of the old cammegh ones, they integrated with rrs. I have noticed something very strange recently. Found a tilted wheel with 2dd a while ago, had some positive results initially, however I have been experiencing some losing streak in the last couple of days, I was pretty cautious about if they have done something to that wheel or it’s a normal swing of the game. Instead of carrying on, I was there and watched the rotor. Here comes the problem, every rev the rotor has the same speed, nothing changes till the ball off the ball track and hits the rotor then it slows down by 4 to 9 pockets depends on the rotor speed( probably thats why I couldn’t win due to the new ‘scatter’). Because this is out of my knowledge with traditional rrs system, has anyone experienced this before? Any advice?

I would actually say no for multiple reasons.

  • The RRS as described by cammegh and the way you describe it does not seems to match. And the way RRS works will give the wheel more randomness than you describe it.

  • John Huxley does not anything equivalent on their website, if the RRS wheels would sell like crazy. JH would be quick to develop an equivalent system and promote it. And those sling shot machines i have measured rotor speed, and i could not find anyone with RRS equivalent system. Just weird ball behavior.

  • The target group for RRS technology is online casinos, but all of the of the online casinos call NMB before the spin/when ball is spun. Why haven’t they bought RRS wheels? Probably because the RRS wheels are more expensive.

  • In 2020 most of the casinos where closed, which led them to bleed money. Even before covid-19 land based casinos have been losing costumers to online casinos. Some of the land based brands in the UK have online casinos. The last thing they want to do in spend money on technology that are going to protect them from 0,1 ppm of their visitors. Companys around the world (even outside the casino industry) loves to participate in the wonderful championship of cost cutting. The technology has been around for about 10 years. And know all of sudden they gonna get RRS wheels, it falls on its own nature.

  • Do know what the biggest threat to a land based casino? Is an online casino

I firmly believe as long their is Nigerian scammers their will be advantage play.

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