Automated Roulette question

Where I gamble, there is an automated roulette machine. I assume everybody is familiar with these devices, you can bet after ball release, but not for very long. The thing is, when the ball is propelled clockwise it hits the same diamond every single spin before dropping. No doubt the wheel isn’t balanced or checked daily like the live tables with a spirit level.

Was watching this last night, sure enough, clockwise spin, same diamond, time and time again. I am assuming there is no way to exploit this, as you can’t place bets that late and the inner wheel is travelling at a decent rate before the no more bets flashes up.

Johno

I’ve always wondered about these automatic wheels

Could you clock the wheel speed and let me know if it is consistent

What I mean is if you clock 1 revolution and it is 2.3 seconds; is it 2.5 seconds a few seconds later or still 2.3 seconds or 1.8 seconds etc etc

I’d be interested in seeing several clockings PER SPIN and a half dozen or a dozen spins-worth

IF the wheel speeds up and/or slows down throughout one ball spin; I’d consider that these wheels are “committing” fraud.

The automated wheels I have come across do vary the speed after NMB’s. It’s just part of the game with these machines. That’s what makes AP on them so difficult. It’s not impossible, but if it were easy everyone would do it. Having said that, I don’t really trust them that much either.

Most of them do not allow you to place bets when rotor starts moving.
Others only spin to one side.
Some of them have the same rotor speed all through the spin, others modify their speed in the middle or after several random number of spins.
Some of them have timers to switch their speed at certain hours.

There´s no cheat, one can find easier or harder than dealer´s wheels to beat them.

This one actually lets you place bets after the rotor is moving and after the ball is released, but only for a very limited time. Yes they can vary in speed, however tonight the thing was off-line as it had developed some fault. I’ll have to wait after it is fixed to see if the dominate diamond still holds true for clockwise spins.

Wasn’t really expecting much from my question, as I know you guys bet as late as possible, but thought I would mention it on the off chance I could take advantage of it. Hopefully the engineer won’t re-balance it.

they have got this airball terminal working again. Obviously they didn’t bother to check if it was balanced as it was still hitting the same diamond on clockwise spins.

I noticed the rotor was slower than normal and at a constant speed (didn’t time it, only counted the revolutions), it does about 8~9 revolutions before the ball has landed. The ball itself will do anything between 29~36 revolutions before dropping, with this machine, once the ball has started, you can bet up to three rotor revolutions.

Sounds like Dealer Signature is your best bet. Good luck!

Machine signature!!! :smiley:

I didn’t time the rotor, it did look slightly faster compared to last night. However the ball hit the same diamond for every clockwise spin, bar one.

I would take the money and run !

What continent is this machine ?

The best E.H.

The automated wheel in the casino where I live doesn’t allow to place
bets when the rotor starts moving.
The rotorspeed is mosttimes the same about 2.2 sec,
Only sometimes the speed differs a bit , then I make no bet.

The design is like the Cammegh wheel in a casino 120 km from my home,
where I go twice the week to
For that reason the automated wheel is the best training tool I could get,
spins every 1.8 minutes , open 15 hours.
And now I can beat this wheel , in opposite to their live game roulette,
that combi isn’t worth to play.

E.H.

With this wheel you can bet until the rotor completes 3 revolutions.

While clockwise spins hit the same rotor, the scatter is kinda wild sometimes as the heavy ball travels around the rotor before landing with a thump.

I have seen this type of wheel too. Automated wheel where you can bet after the ball is released by the pressure of air. Once the ball is released you can bet before 5 to 6 revolutions of the ball to be hit to the pin. Wheel speed it approx. 2 to 2.7 seconds and clockwise and pin dominance is 2 pins. Bounce is approx. 75% in the first half after hitting the vertical pin.
Though I didnt find any good strategy to play as of now.
Any suggestions?

[quote=“shaival, post:12, topic:876”]I have seen this type of wheel too. Automated wheel where you can bet after the ball is released by the pressure of air. Once the ball is released you can bet before 5 to 6 revolutions of the ball to be hit to the pin. Wheel speed it approx. 2 to 2.7 seconds and clockwise and pin dominance is 2 pins. Bounce is approx. 75% in the first half after hitting the vertical pin.
Though I didnt find any good strategy to play as of now.
Any suggestions?[/quote]

The Golden Goose I am looking for .
You tell me where the goose is and I tell you how to catch the goose.

joke beside, in Germany we have many of theese air pressure wheels combined with touch bets
from Novomatic Admiral. The problem NMB is when the ball starts,it’s only for training.
They have 8 Diamonds,the speed of the ball in one direction is mosttimes the same,but you must
control,it’s about 2,2 seconds .
My headcount is 1,25 seconds , clockwise you see the Zero, 5 ,19 and 1 then you are right with the speed
of the ball,when it’s the same you bet, when you are perfect,you could adjust.
Then you must recognise the speed of the ball.
6 to 5 revolutions before the ball hits the pin is early, but you must try, make your thumber or headcount on 60 beeps=one second,
look to the 2 o’clock pin , when the ball passes the pin in 1 second , the next round the ball passes less,
maybe at 12 o’clock and the next time at 9o’clock ,( the knee point or decleration of the ball ) there you read the number under the pin, when the ball has
fallen into the pocket ,count the distance in pockets to the fallen number.
Make your statistics , if the distances of pockets often is similar ,you could bet in future this number of pockets distance.
That’s the principle ,I do that only for training purposes because theese wheels are similar to the Cammegh,
and this wheel is near my home,and I beat this wheel nearly every day to 100 units in 4 hours, but there are bad days too,
if there are no accumulations of hits,don’t bet, then there is something wrong,maybe an other ball or the speed or the airpressure.

E.H.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vk6Yu2bERM

this auto roulette must be a dream for the acrobat. very late nmb call.

Firstly seems like bad quality video but now I could observe it-maybe something in my PC.

okay, my opinion is that only just when I saw this air how make the ball to fly, then - forget it to play with FF.

like I always have said and now will repeat: THIS KIND OF MACHINES ARE JUST ANOTHER KIND OF SLOT MACHINES!!!

IF IT DO NOT WANT TO PAY YOU, IT WILL NOT!!

I do not like to speak here about it why and all of the details because some mine personal considerations but
BELEIVE ME I’VE SEEN SO MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS KIND OF MACHINES THAT YOU COULD NOT IMAGINE!!

if you play it with FF maybe if it has some cycle to pay it will make you some profit but finally if you start to make
big bets and go to presure this slot - it will eat you and the last penny in your pocket, and you willl be surprised
why if it goes evrth. good with FF. the ball just will fall there and will go to another place and you will see it like
normal jump but… air is the answer 8)

also the board this machine has is widder than the normal roulette that FF works on :wink:

hint: you can play this slot only breaking the crystal :stuck_out_tongue:

I do no not think you are correct. Acrobat might be the answer. I have had nice results.

Talk me then in money or numbers my friend - what is the almost profit you have
reached on this automatic wheel then?

I do not say that acrobat will not predict good on it but only in case that there is
no money on the table :wink: when you put for example 300-500 pounds per spin on
it or not so maybe and less - still 100 is a lot of, let’s see what will be happen…
I will tell you: you will see the acrobat predicts EXELENTLY but then the scatter
will be unpredictable and you will wonder why the scatter changes itself suddenly
it is not of bad luck - it is just air which goes on from the numbers cells - there
where the ball have not to land, to not pay the machine!! IT IS COMPUTER MY FRIEND,
IT IS NOT A NORMAL ROULETTE, IT IS JUST ONE SLOT - BE SHURE!!! if you do
not believe me talk with smb. in this salon or with the person who repairs it - the
mechanic to tell you about, find some people there who knows to speak with them
and will see :wink: just my ADVICE to not waste the time on it, nothing more! I think it
is easier go to some real casino and play real roulette instead wasting time on this slots 8)

hmm… i agree that there is something, magnet or air :slight_smile: but after few weeks of practise i start see something interesting (NMB 5 rev to end). sometimes for few minutes ball stops in the same zone (see pic. hits around 0), so i mixed that and ffv :slight_smile: start play with 7gbp and after 10days of playing with minimum bets i get 250gbp in my account. now i regulary transfering money to my account.
but as well seen strange things which was definitely effected by magnet or air like u said.



[quote=“bix, post:18, topic:876”]hmm… i agree that there is something, magnet or air :slight_smile: but after few weeks of practise i start see something interesting (NMB 5 rev to end). sometimes for few minutes ball stops in the same zone (see pic. hits around 0), so i mixed that and ffv :slight_smile: start play with 7gbp and after 10days of playing with minimum bets i get 250gbp in my account. now i regulary transfering money to my account.
but as well seen strange things which was definitely effected by magnet or air like u said.[/quote]this roulette is available on William whill and its named slingshot :smiley:

Hi,

I understand your situation it always happen, but for me what I did is that I used the Fibonnaci Strategy I’ve read this one with bitoomba.com in doing this strategy your next bet will be determined by adding the last two numbers of your previous bets. Then I’ve tried it at bitoomba then it works I’ve still gain profit. :slight_smile: