[Hello! Has anyone used a prediction device on electronic mechanical roulette where the ball is launched automatically, but the roulette wheel itself is a physical wheel?
These types of roulette wheels use either a metal ball or a plastic (white) ball. I’m curious, does a prediction device work on these roulettes? Or do they use an air puff system, like in online casinos, to prevent predictions? Maybe there are bounces or magnets that interfere with accurate calculations?
I assume that a metal ball does not bounce unpredictably because it is heavier and simply falls onto the number without additional jumps. I also think that older roulette models are easier to predict. And possibly, on these roulettes, no one would try to catch you since there is no dealer to suspect anything.
If anyone has experience using prediction devices on these roulettes, please share! Does it actually work or not?
I watched this video and can say with 100% certainty that the ball in this roulette is controlled by magnets. If you remove the spinning wheel, you will find magnets embedded in each number.
How does it work?
The roulette system tracks all bets. It monitors which numbers have received money.
When the ball loses speed and approaches a number, the roulette activates a magnet on a number where no bets were placed.
The system analyzes the bet distribution and selects numbers with the least or no money.
At the right moment, when the ball is about to land, an electric signal is triggered, and a magnet is activated specifically on a number without bets.
If the ball is too close to a number with a large bet, the system may activate the magnet on a neighboring number to deflect it.
Two types of balls are used:
A metal ball, which directly responds to the magnet.
A metal ball with a plastic coating, designed to look like a regular plastic ball but still react to magnets.
The wheel spins very fast. This is intentionally done to enhance the ball’s bounce and make predictions more difficult.
As a result, the roulette does not randomly generate numbers but dynamically manipulates the outcome to avoid paying out on heavily bet numbers.
Try and you will know whether it is beatable! take data of 300-1000 spins of similar air pressure/ball. I think some machines has advantage of up to 60% by betting 5 numbers.
Something like that would almost certainly violate gaming regulations pretty much everywhere. I have, however, heard of automatic wheels having multiple balls made of different materials, as well as randomizing the rotor speed after “no more bets” with a magnetic brake.
roulettecomputers.comclaims that their $80,000 “remote Hybrid” computer can overcome this. In theory, if the rotor speed isn’t changed enough to make it obvious, then it might still be possible to beat the wheel with a good enough computer.
Some of the newer ones also have lights above the ball track to screw with computer vision (which could be overcome by using YOLO), and 12 diamonds instead of the traditional 8.
That’s the Steven’s computers, almost everyone on here, for some reason thinks it’s not a legitimate computer, to put it mildly, but i think it’s more or less good, considering that at least that dude shows any kind of demos.
I tested some of these wheels online, and the difference isn’t that great, they start let’s say at 3700ms, then it’s 3900, and 4200 some time before the ball drops, some of it it’s natural deceleration, but most of it it’s the RRS, but it’s very subtle.
I think the casinos are much more scared of paranoid gamblers blaming the rotor for their losses and not playing these wheels at all.
Unfortunately, I don’t have $80,000 lying around for Steve’s computer (especially now that he’s getting out of the business). I’ve thought about building my own computer based on a Jetson Nano, though it’s hard to say if or when I could find the time.
Also, in theory it should be possible to design a magnetic brake that could be controlled precisely enough to make its effect look like natural deceleration.
