When u know the art of VB but u also have FFA with U

Yesterday i was at my casino .

I found a VERY tilted weel with very nice scater!

in 10 spins(anti) the ball was hiting the 12 and 9 ocklock DDs.and the scater 6 of 10 was 9 pockets.

i went to the toilet set up the FF on me BUT…for big disapointment the IL had somekind of poblem.(i spoke with forester the other day and he will suport me perfectly as he always does!)

so i couldn t use the FF!!!

THE perfect weel was thereeeee!!!in front of my eyes waiting for me to rape it!!!LOL

so i desided to play VB …

1st i was observing all things to do my calibrations…find the right observation points relation with rotor speed etc…

when i was waiting for the anti spins and observing the rotor movement …the right revolution and pray that the ball will hit the DDs I WAS THINKING!!!

why the hell to risk with VB???

if i play VB will i have the advantage of PS???so to avoid some bad spins that was hiting the 6 ocklok diamond???

answer : NO

will i have the advantage to always pick the exact right revolution to do my prediction???or do 1 rev + or - and have catastrofic resaults???(couse we all know that in video spins where the ball has low declerations is the most easy thing to know the right rev…but in real weels the things are much diferent!!!)

answer : NO

will i have the advantage to know sometimes when the ball is gona hit top ot down part of the dd and the ball will turn up bad scater or even spiner and lose???

answer : NO

BUT with FF all these are advantages that we have!!!

wrong DD = error 4
right rev =peace of cake for FF
hit of the dd on bad or good spot= A or B

so i went home… ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

On average wheel even with FF is hard, you can only imagine how hard is without it.

As I told you long time ago, more you know about roulette more you will understand how much the FF is needed.

It is hard with FF because it is a simple timer that cannot handle complex algorythms found in nature like Stefano discovered.

In 2006, GW’s computer was supposed to obtain a 1 in 16 hit rate on modern level wheels, time when i purchased it.
We are in 2009, and now Stefano advertises his computer as capable to achieve a 1 in 8 hit rate on modern wheel set level with manual clicking timing. This is better than the 1 in 10 hit rate his Super Roulette Computer with Laptop and remote communication sold at 1,000,000$ achieved with automated timings.

He claims he did wet his pants, the guy is absorbing too much medecines, he is completely delirous.

Yes they all say that to me
Forget about spending 845$ on Laurance material
UWE and Basieux same

Spend you money on FF

Conclusion
If you want to gain VB skills with out FF you have to become super human or become an time device with two legs ;D

Cheers LS

FF predicts with good accuracy the ball drop point on level wheels. Problem remains the ball scatter which is wide on most modern wheels set level with the light balls.
That’s why the serious VBer won’t waste his time on such conditions. He will travel to several Casinos and determine the tilt level of each wheels and focus on the reasonably tilted. Ball used is of great importance too.
If by extraordinary after tracking several wheels, no tilt could be found, the serious VBer will focus on the tables which allow to change a level wheel into a tilted wheel. This does not apply to all conditions but most, it depends on the casino’s ground and feet supporting the table. This operation is done with friends or a team, and if you do it correctly, the Casino cannot suspect it.

Lucky,

will you finally listen to the good advice that the trusted members give you??? ???

remember,you actually have the honour of knowing me personally, and others here at the forum ;D

the ball is in your court my freind(OR YOUR WHEEL lol) ;D ;D ;D :stuck_out_tongue:

"In 2006, GW's computer was supposed to obtain a 1 in 16 hit rate on modern level wheels, time when I purchased it."

Well that’s what he told you but reality was different.

On his 150 spins that he supplied with computer he couldn’t get hits to rotor better then 1:30. After ball jumps that would be good for nothing. He did get final results, but obviously that wasn’t created by computers advantage.

On some wheels even if you predict 100% accurate point where the ball will drop, hardly that you can have any advantage because of very wide ball jumps.

VB is good if you know what you doing, if you facing good conditions and if you have some luck.

If anything of that is missing then next time you bring with you heavy artillery.

FF predicts with good accuracy the ball drop point on level wheels. Problem remains the ball scatter which is wide on most modern wheels set level with the light balls.

That is a problem for leveled but and tilted wheel.

That's why the serious VBer won't waste his time on such conditions. He will travel to several Casinos and determine the tilt level of each wheels and focus on the reasonably tilted. Ball used is of great importance too.

Same as that he can find and good leveled wheel.
He doesn’t because no VB player can predict leveled wheel.

Your ex boss, uses same program to predict tilted and leveled wheel. It tells you everything. He believes that every wheel will have some degree of tilt, which of course in most cases is useless since player can’t recognize such small advantage.
Same applies to GW that is why it will never work. But Stefano is not hiding any more that he never plays roulette, and that he is just a promoter. Even from earlier time casinos have no data about him.

Forester,

Ball scatter problem on tilted wheels is unexistant compared to level wheels. The ball tends to strike the dominant diamond almost everytime the same way (middle or bottom) of the vertical diamond, this way the ball goes directly to the rotor.

The problem on level wheels is the upper vertical diamond strike and the horizontal diamonds which make the ball travelling longer with more strengh when it comes in interaction with the rotor which in turns make the ball behaving randomly depending on the speed.

Again, what makes the difference are the conditions you are dealing with. If someone thinks he will be able to beat any online Casino at anytime of the day, just charting where ball last landed and where ball lands next and chase random picks, he lives in a fantasy world.

Best Regards.

Ball scatter problem on tilted wheels is unexistant compared to level wheels. The ball tends to strike the dominant diamond almost everytime the same way (middle or bottom) of the vertical diamond, this way the ball goes directly to the rotor.

I am making a test about this so i have my huxley that hits three vertical and some horizontal deflectors.

How do i tilt my wheel to test this.
Put a coin below the wheel-house to get an dominant drop zone?

And would you say that a 2 pin game is realistic to test how ball strike middel and below?

This has to mean there will be less random scatter patterns and maybe you can find an group that has an bias?

Does this behavior apply with different ball types and size?
Lets assume i would test this with 20mm and 18mm ivorine.

Cheers LS

I suggest to tilt your wheel so that around 7/10 ball strike occurs on the 12 o’clock vertical diamond. You put a coin or another object below the wheel base or under a table feet, where you want to create the tilt.
The bigger the ball, the more chance it will hit middle or bottom part of the reference diamond, therefore the less scatter since the final number will be close to the number below striked diamond.
Use a Teflon ball if you want to see clearly the effect. Ball scatter will be greater with ivorine ball.

Then to match casino conditions, set your wheel level and use a 18mm Ivorine ball. You will clearly realize the different type of strike, which of course make things much more complicated for the VB player, electronic used or not.

I always let fall one chip under the table when i’m not satisfied with the tilt of the wheel.

LS mostly in casinos what is described tilted wheel is not really tilted wheel.
Just ball likes to drop at some places more often because of deformations on ball track.

To create significant effect of tilted wheel you really need to lift one side by at least 5 mm. Of course on some more sensitive wheels this may be less.

@Bago

Not necessary that ball scatter on leveled wheel will be worst then on tilt.
It could be opposite. Ball is hitting DD with wider angles then on leveled wheel.