Stand up to be counted, test your roulette predictions

Hi Forester, thanks for taking the time to show the chart, I appreciate that.

You will rightly think that I am being very fussy when i point out that 1 of my “winners” was also missed out in the results because I was marked on only 18 out of the 19 spins. Lol, no problem

Anyway, it was never about the prize money, so the next time you get a live prediction of 23 red, please put it all on! and good luck.

well done to the winners, and thanks.

Advantage Seeker

It’s not me who should do your scores.
I did it fast just to get an idea, and I said if I made mistake you can correct me.
It wouldn’t surprise me if your X I added to someone else. With some I noticed that I did mistake but I was not prepared to go through everything again.
All I need now is claim your price and send me paypal details.
8)

This was a great thread! I don’t feel that bad about exhuming it!

It’s been over a year since this challenge was thrown down. Many new players have come into the AP arena and a lot of us, including myself, have grown in experience. I think it’s time for a new video challenge!

It’d be great to see how VB2 players do against the FF and how other VB players do in the mix. What do you say Forester? Can you make another trial for us?

It may be fun. I can’t do it now; maybe later .

If someone else wants to, he can.

[quote=“forester, post:64, topic:467”]It may be fun. I can’t do it now; maybe later .

If someone else wants to, he can.[/quote]

Hey Forester, it’s been almost a year since you said that. I would say that is later! :slight_smile:

Any chance of a repeat challenge?

:slight_smile: Definately will be fun. I’m in if you decide to do it.

I also support this request. :slight_smile:

We want a rematch… :smiley:

Yes it would be nice, who is going to do it :stuck_out_tongue:

If I knew how to do it, I would do it. But I really want to be a participant this time. My VB wasn’t what it is today at the time of the first challenge. I really want to give it a go. Also with the amount of new members, advances in VB experience, and RC techniques and models, it would be really fun to do!

Please Forester! Help us separate the men from the boys!

Please Forester? A lot of us want to try this challenge! I missed out on the first one and I want to give it a go.

Same here… Im with you Davey

It would be nice too see how much progress the new school guys made over the old school ones 8)

Ive got an idea - lets keep spamming this tread… :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:

If and when this happens, i would also like to give it a go.

Count me in !!!

This thread is almost 5.5 years old. A lot has changed in the AP world in terms of software/hardware, players, and new VB methods. I really think we should have another one of these tests! I’d do it myself, but the problem is I actually want to participate this time. And I will not require prizes for first place. :smiley:

No excuses! lol

I’m in as well 8)
The pity is that there’re a lot of persons that already are not active in the forum but on earlier years they were so tasty for the forum… the people prefer reading or already just no enter than posting! :frowning:

I really think we should have another one of these tests!
I think test in such format is not usefull and not practical. That is video where possible to run video frame by frame, so all measurings are not like in casino. More practical is test how to use what we see - so say we always measure the same ball speed and then see distance which ball made. So that is how to use previous data for next predictions - such test is much more practical. It is solved mathematically. So the same like in casino we have predictions and real results. On real results old data, we must find way how to adust predictions - here is way to wins....

By the way Davey where you disapeared for such long time ?

Last week someone contacted me in regards the Acrobat 4 RC.

Typical story;
Hello Forester , bla blah bla, I bought one roulette computer somewhere else but I was scammed, but your site looks genuine bla, bla.

I will buy your RC if you can predict video spins I send you because I read at roulettesystemsreviews that you are scammer ;D ;D ;D.

I accepted the offer not to convince him in to buying but just as a personal challenge and because from few sentences he could understand why such review from The Scammer Stefano.

First he sent me 3 full spins where all hits were at DD9. If I have to base my prediction on that I would have to set it as tilt, I explained him also saying it would be to easy. He said no the ball hits at all places.
Well then send me spins as that, because I can set the system only based on what I see.

New spins one was 9 rotations long the others a bit longer but he cuts video at ~7 the rotation.
It means set for earlier rotations is based only on 2 spins while after 9th it uses 3. Such points changes at the moment of perdition especially with small amount of rotations clocked should be avoided. Some spins for prediction were also to short, I had to clock rotor , then start spin again to be able to predict and still often had to use very first ball rotations. (Still significantly including back spinning on the ball making predictions unstable)

Problems with spins, with recording he moves camera, it is from to low angle so the DD6 and DD12 look as 120 degrees. Making distorted view so it is hard to define position of the ball and numbers. I asked is it 8 diamonds wheel , firstly he wasn’t sure then he confirmed it.

All I can do is to set on 3 supplied spins and predict. But then how to experience full power of the Acrobat 4. I need to be able after every spin or at least some spins to tell the FF at which diamond the ball dropped, so it can learn better which ball speeds end where. The system need to know is the ball arriving to last rotation as expected.

The wheel actually looked to me as it could be easy predicted, not so wide ball jumps and the ball dcc was ok. The main problem was some spins to short spins and NMB.

So really we can’t fully test the Acrobat 4 on that way. The only way is to have something as 50 full spins and to predict them on a same way as when I make training videos. When recording FF predictions it would hard to cheat and to place all beeps in right place.

Conclusion,

The Acrobat 4 can’t be fully tested without seeing the end of the spin. The Acrobat 4 is a head of all previous roulette computers. It continuously learns and for that uses everything from the spins.

[quote=“bebediktus, post:76, topic:467”]

I really think we should have another one of these tests!

I think test in such format is not usefull and not practical. That is video where possible to run video frame by frame, so all measurings are not like in casino.
More practical is test how to use what we see - so say we always measure the same ball speed and then see distance which ball made. So that is how to use previous data for next predictions - such test is much more practical. It is solved mathematically. So the same like in casino we have predictions and real results. On real results old data, we must find way how to adust predictions - here is way to wins…[/quote]

All I hear are excuses. I understand, not many people want to pick up the gauntlet once it’s been thrown down.

I have a life. lol

Anyway, you should do it Forester. Some of us want to do this test again.

But anyone can do it.
Perhaps Dona who already recorded some good spins.