Roulette Computer ranking

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PJ and Mikemc, someone emailed me to saying you work for the casinos, is this true?

Nowegian, please advise who it was that e-mailed this information to you? We should ask them for proof of such a lie?

My record and employment history are public knowledge and its well known that I have worked at the same job for 52 years! It is also well known that I have competed against Casino’s in many countries all over the world for more than 32 years. I studied Blackjack with the late “Laurence Revere” in the US and have followed the development of roulette computers with the “great” Forester for a number of years.

I do not hide behind a nick name, nom de plume or use false names like yourself and most others in the roulette gambling business. In fact perhaps there is only Laurance Scott and Mike McBain who can claim this?

I am waiting for my former employees to clear the release of this information to me for use in the public domain.

Nowegian, and why would they do this? You leave so many questions unanswered. What are you hiding?

Mike.

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Do not worry Mike, he does not know but that is only small part that he does not know.
Mr. Professor from Norway, who still did not learn that he can’t win arguments with hard words.

Mike is the only one person that I accepted to personally meet.
He is one who managed to master Laurence’s VB and of course adopt it for his needs.

Mike was with me all the time following full development of FF. He understands every single part from system why it is as it is, what it can do and what it is imposable to do and why.

He plays roulette for years, his sight is sharp and he definitely knows how to take advantage from roulette. His passion for roulette and aye for detail amazes me.

So Mr. Professor if you want to be professor, please behave, and give respect to people their knowledge and experience.

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Forester,

Deleting posts will not hide the facts.

You wrote that you know that it is impossible to use dealer signature on a level wheel.
I do not discredt you to look smart, I discredit your claim because it is wrong , therefore I am smart and you are discredited.

I inform you that shortly will be some footage on the net, from several people and different wheels showing that it can be done.

It would be much wiser to accept this fact than deny.

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Nowegian

How can I have a false name, my name is Ronny Johansen, this is my real name signed at the bottm of some of my posts?

On one forum you are “Nowegian” on another you are “Norwegian” on the Casino Operations forum you are “Rjohansen” please tell us who “Ronny Johansen” really is and prove to us that you are a “Professor” as you also claim to be?

On Forester’s forum you say…

We will be showing clear and concise footage of all roulette computers in testing, with screen shots of the software partially to prove we have all model of roulette computers listed and how the mathematics actually works. No software will be available in its complete form on view to the public due to copyright infringement.

My interest in promoting this site to the public is because I no longer work for the casino industry directly and also to set up a forum for discussing roulette computer cheating devices.

But on the Casino Operations forum you say…

YOu will be able ot see parts of software codes of roulette predictive software at our site shortly and explainations of how the software works mathematically. [b]This site will only be able to be accessed by casino personal.[/b]

So why should we believe that you have anything of educational interest to contribute to this forum and that you are not merely stirring up comments just to take screen shots for your future out of context use to promote your own ends whatever they might turn out to be?

You are probably seeking further work with the Casino’s?

Mike.

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Nowegian… you wrote, quote: “PJ and Mikemc, someone emailed me to saying you work for the casinos, is this true?”…

I will try to keep my answer brief and crystal clear given that english is not your mother tongue?.. NO, I DO NOT WORK FOR CASINOS AND BEYOND THIS FORUM I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW MIKE BUT I HAVE READ HIS MANY POSTS AND CONSIDER THAT HE IS LIKELY TO BE A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EXPERIENCED ROULETTE PLAYER.

I shouldn’t need to give “a professor” advice but I will… life has taught me not to believe everything I hear and to test the validity of advice received from “somebody” or people I do not know… I suggest you heed my advice.

I do have a question however for you my learned “professor”… Nowegian… if you were to take a very sharp knife/razor and cut a 200 Kroner note in half then stack the pieces on top of one another then repeat that process another 49 times… how tall would the stack of paper be when you finished?

Cheers
PJ

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I am totally bemused by the behavior of most system sellers on the web. It doesn’t matter which site you visit or join but trying to research this amazing topic ‘roulette’ you have to negotiate a mine field of absolute nutters (Forester excluded). Their petty snipes at one another is ruining our endeavors to conquer this game.

Cheers
PJ

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The Nok and the Stealth i have never heard about. Rotronis from germany DID exist. It was marketed by Marcel Koers who also developed a BJ computer that actually worked. The roulette computer did not. You used 1 spin for set up and no further adjustments. As i recall it, it predicted the “classical series” and not numbers. (Tiers du Cylindre, Orphelins etc.)

Weighed in at 3-400 grams.

You were also required to pay a monthly fee to get the computer reset.

Beside that, there are at least 4 different developments of roulette computers in germany, but none of them is promoted or sold in the open.

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It could be someone only pretending to be Mark.

It is free market people can buy or sell whatever they want.
But some claims about roulette computers are definitely unrealistic.

Stefano’s video demo is disaster; he does not have constant drop point related to prediction. That is what is most important because if you do not have it, when ball bouncing is added you have nothing left for advantage. There is no voodoo or miracles.
How did he get reasonable result it is not mine to guess, but one is sure, his result is not based on prediction.

Mark’s video looks better, I recently received his DVD and set up procedure.
Video is assembled of many parts so it is hard to tell how genuine it is.
His set up process doesn’t make any sense to me.
He is clocking every rotation from start then he stops then he counts rotations, then he clicks on the end. Finally he adds amount of counted rotations in to computer and position where the ball hits diamond. I do not understand why he only counts rotations, especially because that I is last 6 rotations where prediction is made. Why computer could not count them?
With giving system position where the ball hits diamond in relationship to clocking position he is trying to set offset. But that is not correct way. Then in middle when results are not so good he is calling for computer recalibration.

They are guys who for $5000 willing to demonstrate computer.
If I am buyer I would only require them to do my test in front of live camera.

Part one of test would tell how good computer is in adjusting human errors in clocking.
Par 2, shifting clocking point by +90, -90 and 180 deg. will tell how good computer can adjust to ball speed change. This will also stop them cheating as Stefano did in his attempt to do my test. His statement that he can manually enter data and get result is pointless, because you cannot refer that data to anything and anyway computer should predict based on clocked data not on entered data.

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Question for Kelly.
If computer produces hit to rotor 1:20 when average scatter is applied what will be final result.

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…final result…

if you can consistently achieve this… you have discovered the holy grail… or in punter’s terms you will forge ahead at the miraculous rate of 85% on turnover

Cheers
PJ

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Wondering what this idiot of self proclaimed professor is doing.
First he goes around and talking how he has IQE6 and it is reviewed as 6 compared to other computers but his description is nothing as IQE6.
Then he changes description to worst and review it as 2. Even claiming how I lost much money, when I really made in one weekend more then in past six month.
I do not care is it rated 2 or 6, it is his sick review, but I do care if someone is dishonest and talks something that is not truth. I tried to help him as I would help anybody but he is really sick man. Probably now he thinks when there is more information about Stefano’s computer that he can profit from that on making even worst scam. He made same posts all over the internet. Here he made mistake, he used program to hide IP but he forgot to clean cookies. Forum database straight linked him to his the other name. So it is not someone who by stupidities pretending to be Mark Howe but it is him.
I spent some time following pages about roulette computers.
Stefano made close to 100 pages with different domain names to promote his phone, and Mark made about 50. I think Mark will catch up soon.

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Forester system is ranked low because it does not work that well and has poor features. You are crazy if you claim my i am stefano trying to sell phone… You have chance to speak to me on the phone or I can take picture of sign to Oslo outside my home. Have you allowed for the RRR device used in casino in your device. If you have not forester your device cannot work in some casino. Ecplain to customers why you sell device that cannot work in in some casino?

your system is ranked low for many reason, no sound output, poor performance and inaccurate with basic and limited feature.

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Mark first you made one description, reviewed it as 6, with main highlight as fast program with high accuracy, but because it does not use hearing aid you rank it as 6.

When I told you to stop your stupidity writing rubbish all over the net you changed description and ranked it as 2. I do not care for your ranking it is your ranking, it is your way and you will have to live with it. Stefano did same as you in his review, but it did not take him long to realize that he is better of if he completely removes review of my system. That is what people do when they can not succeed the other way.

Last person who bought your computer regret it. He bough it only because he did not search net and he did not know about FF. Well, you managed to sell only because the man wasn’t informed enough, and with your approach you only targeting people who didn’t do enough of homework.

Yes I do sell system which does not work on all wheels; it is because the difference in between you and me is huge. I simply tell people what is possible and I never claim that FF can do something what is imposable.

In regards to hearing aid usage in casinos maybe you can try to read what Barnett says. He is on the other side but at least he has good knowledge and he is realistic. If you want my opinion on hearing aid it is as “Windows for Idiots”.
FF is maybe not so much user friendly because it would compromises on accuracy which I hold as most important in prediction, especially on leveled wheels.

Computer that pronounces 3 numbers across sector of 15 numbers to be played couldn’t be clasified as smart. Firstly playing sector of 15 numbers isn’t very smart, ask any person experienced in advantage play. Secondly until your computer pronounces 3 numbers player with FF can already finish betting. And finally to do it computer must calculate
rotor movement from rotor clocking until ball is clocked. That only gives higher chance for errors due to error in clocking and different rotor decelerations.
The way how FF is designed that part is avoided because the system needs to calculate rotor from last ball click where possibility of error is halved.

Anyway in your description of FF you are talking how visual ballistic must be used with system and how system does not calculate rotor speed changes, so I am really not sure what are you talking about. I think you may have simple timer that I was giving away 2 years ago for people to test it with E2.
Can you explain process of setting and testing system so I know what you were testing?

And why do you write that I recently lost much money with FF when actually I made more then before because I played higher value chips on tilted wheel where I have huge advantage.

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Forester it is very difficult to detect any device in casino. Check Mike Barnetts site.

Name me one person that was caught using inductive hearing aid that led to capture of roulette device cheating, I know of none on my records from 30 years. I9 think you resort to critic because you cannot implement voice files in your system because of lack of skill which is seen by all on this site.

you require proof with live footage now, again this is because you have not got your own wheel so you critic people who have invested in this.

The same as no one is caught with your device, but first it must make money and bypass RRR Roulette Rotor Randomizer.

i ranked your device, not Mark howe, he only helped with some English and explainations.

You also state that playing 15 numbers is not very smart, but many people play like this, other developers do.

I think it is you that is not very smart, Howe shows that you can randomly play just one chip in the 15 number sector per spin and you will constantly be in profit every week. I laugh at this, howe only shows targeted area to play. Are you stating that if you randomly play only one chip per spin in this area you will have less an edge than if you played the whole 15 number sector. This is serious question for someone claiming to be expert in this area and math. Howe states this in his instructions as do other roulette computer sellers. you do not think that people play whole 15 numbers, you are funny forester.

forester, how do you compensate for RRR device that casinos use, please tell me, I have not got you on record as purchasing device form me, so you do not know hiow it worked, unless Howe sold you the information.

someone forwarded a genuine review by one of your customers that lowered your ranking, he is not allowed to edit my site and influence me. The review is genuine because I redid the testing after viewing the footage.

Footage will be at my site soon showing this RRR device and proof it works and stops device like yours.

I was sent many bits of infomation about you forester from one person recently and it does not look like someone likes you and wishes me to ad this information to my site. i think it may be a woman because of the amount of information that is personal to you.

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Forester it is very difficult to detect any device in casino. Check Mike Barnetts site.
Yes that is what he says but he also says that hearing aid is the easiest to detect. Which of course it truth.

He also says that constant advantage on leveled wheel is imposable.
And he is not much wrong. FF is definitely most accurate device where everything is done that skilled player can achieve highest accuracy. All what can compromise accuracy is excluded. (that includes and hearing aid which needs additional rotor calculation) But results are still not even close to result on tilted wheel. Check the graphs I recently published. It is still much better than yours.
I will not compare it to Stefano’s because he doesn’t have any prediction.

I think you resort to critic because you cannot implement voice files in your system because of lack of skill which is seen by all on this site.

Do not be silly, more then 10 years ago I interfaced Z80 to voice synthesizer that was producing human voice. It worked great except when it was talking it had my accent :-*. This days with all new chips it is much easier. It was much harder to design micro circuit that produces zap.
At some stage I thought to do it even to use voice recognition module but it would be waste of time. There is no great knowlege needed for that allis already built in.
I prefere to stay with zap and to reduce device size to something that you can only dream about.

You require proof with live footage now, again this is because you have not got your own wheel so you critic people who have invested in this.

I did not ask for any prove. When I work on system there is not much use of real wheel. I do everything in slow motion from video spins of many different roulette wheels. Playing on kitchen table will never be same as playing in casino and that is the only what counts.

The same as no one is caught with your device, but first it must make money and bypass RRR Roulette Rotor Randomizer.

Why, if I never come across one. Anyway small possible change would not effect IQE6 as much because it is differently designed then your system, you must calculate rotor from time when you clock it. To avoid it you designed system where you clock ball then rotor. Are you aware how stupid that was. Sadly many people with luck of understanding bought it. And more sad is that after all, you are not working to improve things but to create more scam.

You also state that playing 15 numbers is not very smart, but many people play like this, other developers do.

Yes many people play like that and many other ways as well. But many people do not have advantage.

Someone forwarded a genuine review by one of your customers that lowered your ranking, he is not allowed to edit my site and influence me. The review is genuine because I redid the testing after viewing the footage.

Really, so first you claim you tested it and now you claim how review is redone because of someone else. I mean can’t you trust your own testing.

I was sent many bits of infomation about you forester from one person recently and it does not look like someone likes you and wishes me to ad this information to my site. i think it may be a woman because of the amount of information that is personal to you.

Sure, Sure, because it is to many of them it is hard for me to know which one did it. So i better screw them all. 8)

[shadow=red,left]Instead of writing rubbish and asking stupid questions can you explain us how did you set IQE6 and how did you test it.[/shadow]

Additionally if you want to prove something go and do test as I described, record it and show us. Or you going to be as Stefano and claim how the best test is not real wheel but manually entered data, with complete lack of understanding why testing and shifting clocking position is important during the test.

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you are here to sell something , I am not here to sell roulette computers.

you write your own review and comparison of products yet do not have products

It is xrazy and funny

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Yes I start selling it again.
Perhaps you should know that for 1 year I refused to sell any of FF and that I referred all potential buyers to Mark Howe, and Stefano.

But do not worry I do not make much from sales I do not have to because I make money on the other ways, I sell it very chip only to totally screw scammers. Infect I am very lazy to build units but I sacrifices myself to bring some light to roulette advantage play
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The price is about 10 times lower and my product works. Also when someone buys it he has opportunity to get all information about other computers. After reading it he will never buy anything from them. It is not information provided by me but by community of good people sharing same interests.

My reviews are genuine and well explained to details.
I never had Marks computer that is why I personally do not write about it.
I know that this guy who reviews your system is genuine but I still did not expect such bad results from you.

It is time for you to put hand on forehead and ask yourself “what have you done”
You are the one who is going all over internet and making web pages to promote your scam. You are the one who completely wrongly described FF at your page and reviewed it badly. But most important is that you are selling product which does not work at all. After all I think you and Stefano deserve each other. Instead losing time here where we try to do real work better go and create additional web page under different name, maybe you find someone uninformed and make few $.

Oh yes, did you know that Stefano’s phone and codes were cracked, if you want his program I can get it for you.