I want to buy roulette computer but

i am not foster. i am from the usa and can say what i want. if i think something is good i will say it. i have other computers and systems. alot of bull shit out there. so if i can post on here and help some one not be scammed i will! if some one wants proof i am not foster message me personaly. foster does not get the respect he should. i am new i bought the ffa 3 weeks ago. I just started using it. it is a tool to help you win more than a magic button. so please think before you speak you dont understand because you dont have one and i will say i post on here positive info because that is what you get with ffa. most people dont say how good it is on here. they quitly make money. i just want people to buy what works.

Hey jaybird21, thanks for feedback.
But do not worry I get good respect where it counts.

Product is good, but support is even better.
I am almost available 24 hours 7 days per week.

I do not have to hide and make excuses as some.

Hi Jay which computers do you have?

Also is the shout box live? Nobody responds.

i am not here to knock any one. so message me and i will give you any info you want. i will tell you that genuine winner is a scam. shout box is live but new so people are not always on it.

lol forester, i know what happened to me was bad, and it was a nightmare, but i promise you and every1 out there, that i will challenge the genuine winner to court and prove him wrong :slight_smile:

Man, just forget it. Stefano is always hiding.

When I tried to get refund for some he gave me wrong address to meet him.
After he told me “it is my old office address”.
Six months ago he even moved from house where he lived.

His 200% money back exists only to attract people to buy it same as his challenge.

If he is a man of his word, what is stopping him to refund you?

Anyway he claims that he sent you only introduction of his document and that he did not have time to support you. But he only gives empty promises.
Same happened to at least 20 people I know.

And this guy on eBay that is trying to sell his computer is someone new. I did not have previously contact with him. He is from USA.

yous is one of the reasons i made that post. if he would have read it he would have bought fosters computer first insted of wasting his money on genuine winner scam first. but would be happy to get foster more customers.

[quote=“Forester, post:18, topic:279”]Securityman,
You are fresh as well. I appreciate your help but please be careful.

You have over there golden mine so better do not talk too much.
Even to people who have FF because you can’t know who is who, since anybody could purchase the system. All i am saying is try to avoid to much personal details as your location.[/quote]

OK Forester
reading you loud and clear

over and out

securityman

Some people just love FFZ and prefer it over FFA.
I love FFZ as well and still claim that it is the smartest designed system for single player. But nobody can answer what is better.
Anyway here is what someone who upgraded FFZ 10 days ago thinks about new PS feature added to the system.

hello, I'm thinking of smaller "custom made" FFZ with all passive elements smallest possible (SMD). Can you please advice what coils can be use? 10 000uF or smaller? best, xxxx PS. new Tilt with PS is ....ohhhhh... , dealers told me twice that it is nearly impossible to win 7-8 times in row!!

One is for sure, with FFZ or FFA, even close to imposable becomes possible.

Forester I MUST connect the unit to my machines because I have invented the best way to test the Roulette computers there is nothing more sofisticated than my machines.........Dear Forester I have the pleasure to tell you that from my first 2 hours of tests your computer works MUCH BETTER THAN A SWISS WATCH I have never seen this level of precision!!!!! By the way your computer works PERFECTELY only when you input the right SET CALIBRATION .........here is the key of success!!!! For this reason I want to ask you, when you need to calibrate again the lonly way is to put off the unit and start again from the beginning, is this right? Or there is a way to make a new calibration without go out from the program ???? There is a way to memorized and keep the same Calibration SET even if the computer is turned off ???

Thank you…MY COMPLIMENTS
xxxxxxx

You can use restore, to reload previously saved settings.
After each predicted spin the FFA saves 80 variables needed for prediction.
If you turn power OFF and ON you can recall saved data by selecting restore from menu.
You can make system to learn again without leaving table.
When is time to clock wheel just press and hold switch for 10 sec. it will take you to menu.
System will start same as you just powered it up with difference that this time it will start with default values based on previous game.
But it will go out of precision mode so it can readjust properly for new wheel.
In the case that after restarting it on this way the wheel you play has huge noticeable differences in ball behaviour it may be better to reset systems power and to start again.

I asked you to not connect to your machine with simulated outputs of data from roulette wheel for good reason.
It is because output may not match system requirements of players hand clocking and needed voltage levels created by pressing the switch.

"I have the pleasure to tell you that from my first 2 hours of tests your computer works MUCH BETTER THAN A SWISS WATCH I have never seen this level of precision!!! "

Of course it does, FFA is programed in machine language, and it has very smart algorithms, that is why nothing you’ve tested earlier can’t match with FFA’s performance.

As i said many times PDA you’ve tested may give just enough for tilted whele prediction, mobile phone you tested would be even worst. (Asuming that they have valid algorithms. )
For real leveled wheel prediction at least 37 times higher accuracy is needed. Leveled whel prediction needs not only to identify particular rotation but and particular ball position in between rotations.

Since you have unlimited system as well please test it and let me know what you think?

Some explanations so replay to some emails I just forward here.

Hi, After many long hours browsing the internet i came accross your product,although i dont quite get the differences between your ffa,ffz and ffv. I also see you are in queensland, i live in xxxxxx.

Now when it comes to roulette computers there are alot of scammers on the internet claiming there product can do numerous things, when really it is a ‘timing’ device which someone could possibly do in there own head,without a computer!

Now, i am a serious buyer and literally have the ‘cash in my hand’ ready to purchase but i am not yet convinced about a product i have reviewed or seen details about. Please explain to me how your product will read and adjust details including rotor speed,ball speed,etc because obviously they all differ.

Surely they all differ that is why we measure them.
You should read and watch videos here.
http://myrulet.com/Gambling/Roulette-computers/ffz-roulette-computer-upgrade-r5a.html

Also please tell me if this product is so successful why are you now in the business of selling them? Shouldn't you be well off enough? Please answer this.

Roulette computer is a tool that helps, I never gave any guaranty that it will make you winner, also I never claimed to make extreme wealth with it. I even published results of survey that users did only few months ago. Winning money form casino is never easy.
Someone new with FF just sent me an email that in 4 days he won more than I did in 6 months. What can I say? But i stil lmake much more then form sales.

http://myrulet.com/Gambling/Roulette-systems/as-a-roulette-player-how-much-do-you-make-per-year.html

FF I also do not consider just my product since it was developed here by forum members. Selling it was never business for me. I do not sell it for thousands of dollars I do not make empty promises just to sell and I do not pay for advertisements.
If I divide all money I got form sale with hours worked on it I wouldn’t be paid $2 per hour. Profit is in feedback and received ideas to build better product.

After many hours/days researching i know for a FACT that certain roulette computers are proven to beat the system and have been used around the world at casinos to make millions of dollars ( this is a fact, i have read in newspaper article).

If you spent time around you would also find that FFA and FFZ were purchased by casino investigator. Why and what it means, I leave for you to decide.
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=633.0 Beware device is deadly accurate

So....if you think your product is worthwhile for me, i would like you to reply back to me as soon as you can.

I can’t have idea if FF can be worthwhile for you, that’s is something only you can decide. I can say that only recently I was in your casino and there were many nice wheels to play.
With FF ,what you see and read is what you get, in 5 years there wasn’t one person who claimed different.

Also one more thing, can i see a live demonstration at your office/headquarters in QLD?

Sorry I am not in to convincing people in to anything or wasting my time trying to sell something that I do not care sell or not. I do not invite all kind of people to my place to sell them something. I am a player not a businessman or promoter.

There are few people around you with FF but I do not believe they would be interesting in meeting you to show you the system with purpose of convincing you in to buying it. In 5 years I met only few people form forum, they have all FF’s and I know them for long time since we together started this forum and designing FFZ. Some even sent me money before then system was finished, just to make sure I work on it.
All together is a long story why something is as it is, who can remember and explain everything.

Thanks for the link. Now i understand you dont care if you sell them or not, what about a 'partnership', you probably wont be interested but i am also a player and attend the casino on a daily basis (xxxxxxxxxxx). I have a sure fire way of making unlimited amounts of money,really, i do! All i need is a device that has the ability to acheive 1-20! Which when it comes to a roulette computer, that would be stock standard, if not very poor i would imagine.

I could lets say ‘work for you’ and we could share profits, if you were interested. If you are, i would like to meet you as my system is a real winner and the hardest part of my system is going undetected after constant wins at the wheel.

I do not make partnership and people work for me. Such stories are for kids.

I do not send devices for experiments, if i do i will have to make 1000 units each year. I do supply some devices differently but that’s for friends.

1:20 you can’t have. How can you if that’s what you have in your casino just because of ball jumps distribution.

I make devices, i can help users to understand it, but what they do with it, on which wheels they apply (lose or win thousands) it’s not my business.

Do not believe everything you read on public forums about roulette computers.
In usual it’s written by people whose main goal is to sell.

Please Google for
Stefano , Mark Howe, Jafco, survtech, roulette
They might help you.

You telling me your device cant even tell me a prediction for over half the roulette wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am starting to beleive mark howe's comments on your device.

Hehe I like this, obviously you didn’t read that he apologised and what he writes.

"We was given Foresters programs to test after someone claimed they did not work and supplied us with his programs. After extensive testing we found them to work Very Well. So my apologies for posting negative reviews about Foresters devices, most of the reports I got was from one person it seems pretending to be many different people, none other than Steven Hourmouzis.

It was only after checking an IP I realized I had been duped into believing that Foresters devices do not work, false reports it seems. now I have tested Foresters programs myself I know them to work very effectively. It still takes skill to use such programs in a real casino environment, but this vendor is genuine and his site has a forum that is an excellent source of information on roulette prediction techniques, well worth visiting. http://myrulet.com"

How computer can predict within half wheel if randomness of ball jumps is greater of that?
Imagine the computer predicts where on rotor the ball drops within one pocket of accuracy. After ball scatter we get 1:20. How on earth someone can get better than that. I know wheels in your casino, I played there many times.

ok, for play on xxxx casino , because i dont know if you see that but all is new. new video , the picture is more "pretty". so i said, for play on xxxx casino , what computer is better ? FFA FFZ or FFV ?

i want know . gueninewinner.com = hourmouzis ? or it s a different personn ?

Sorry for delay.
I wrote you a replay yesterday when I was about to send it we lost power because of big storm.

FFZ and FFV use same program and rotor can be clocked at any place, FFA (talking computer) needs to wait for rotor to come at particular position.

Yes
Genuine winner is Hourmouzis site.

Is the FFZ computer the best on the market ?

How wise is to ask someone who is selling it to tell you if it is the best?
You should ask people at http://rouletteplace.com what they think. perhaps someone who is using it may answer.

If I would like to buy the FFZ roulette computer - mini would you give me an example on skype ? Or a personal meeting before buying ?

Sometimes I do, but now I am not interested.

There are no wires, how is the clocker sending signal to the computer ?

Perhaps you should read about it before then you jump in to something that you do not understand.

Does the computer have a delete bottom if you get in trouple then you can press the delete bottom to delete the software on the computer ?

Nobody can delete computer with a button, perhaps it can delete software for people who do not understand, but deleted files can be recovered, if you are in trouble they will find it.

Also “the button” will not delete the clocking switch, induction loop or spy earpiece. So I might not be sure what is the point of your question. Perhaps someone is playing with you pretending that he knows something.

FFZ can be locked and as such it works as an electronics acupuncture unit. Even that way I am not sure if it will be justified since nobody ever got caught.

The new FFZ is so small, if someone searches you he might have problem seeing it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hi, I am currently researching RC's and have narrowed the field down to two devices, Jafco's and your FF. I purchased Jafco's visual system in the past, and being a beginner when I bought it, it was well presented and taught me the basic concepts, but I was pretty disappointed on my first visit to xxxxx when I discovered the modern Cammegh wheels in use there were VERY different to the practice spins presented on his training dvd and youtube videos. The wheels here have a mind of their own and I see crazy bounces all the time.

What I would like to know is - can the FF reliably make calculations with the first 2 ball revs? My preference is to play online, and many UK based sites these days offer excellent HD vision, but they call NMB’s fairly early on. I have no idea how RC’s are actually applied in real casinos. I need something that can make calculations fast, ideally within two balls revs.
Let me know if the FF is up to it.

It’s impossible to have such early prediction with good accuracy.
Reasonable roulette level wheel can be predicted 3,4,5 perhaps 6 rotations to the end, after that most of the time errors that wheel make by itself are too high, so it makes prediction pointless.
Some explanation is here
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=156.msg1682#msg1682

Semi tilted roulette wheel if we want to take any advantage of predicting particular diamonds is about same, perhaps earlier prediction is possible but then results are good only if we have results overlapping.

Strong tilt can be earlier predicted but a roulette computer still needs few seconds for it, 1/2 rotor clocking and at least 2 ball rotations. Clicking 1/2 of rotor brings more errors since its clocked so early.
Also if ball jumps are not good you’ll hardly get anything.

In your case the only possibility is VB2 using timer or FF. But if the player can spot rotor speed change just by looking it quickly. I played it few times had nice wins but also and bad losses so it’s very hard.
With a good dealer it was easier but there is many opportunities.
VB2 may need only 1.5 sec of time, but if rotor is clocked it takes longer.

Jafco teaches traditional VB; predict 3-4 rotations before the end of spin. Since he advises you to guess when the ball is for example 3 rotations to the end of spin it would be impossible to play any Cammegh wheels here even if the ball doesn’t jump. If you look for the sudden change of ball deceleration as most VB players would do it would be hard to spot it since it doesn’t exist on your wheels.
Even the best players i know struggling with it.

The wheels here have a mind of their own and I see crazy bounces all the time.
There is not much that can be done about it. You should analyze it and decide for yourself is it worth buying any device.

Have a look this post
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=1442.0.

New FF program acrobat goes more in to setting different jumps for various ball speeds. Mostly to predict when the ball will hit very low diamond on a tilted wheel (the ball back bounce or instant stop) so the system predicts it differently. Regardless the device is the most accurate as it can be such settings are useless if predictions are done to early.

Good luck in your research.
Forester