Clear evidence that Stefano's system=DS

Very true my friend Forester. A LOT of his players had cruel desillusions with this clown. Indeed, by reading his bullshit on his various forums, they thought they would become millionnaire just by sending 333 spins clockwise and 333 spins anticlockwise from their casino wheel. What was Stefano’s answer EVERYTIME? “No patterns found, send more spins or try another wheel”.

People lost a lot of money and TIME by following this type of deceptive advice.

Instead of telling the truth that his system relies on dealer signature and therefore consistency of wheel and ball speed, HE TRIED TO MAKE HIS PLAYERS AND PEOPLE ON FORUMS BELIEVE THAT HIS SYSTEM CAN WIN AND DETECT MYSTERIOUS PATTERNS IRRESPECTIVE OF THE WHEEL AND BALL SPEED: IT WAS A HUGE LIE!!!

And the worse is he ACCUSED others for their understanding of his system but HE DID NOT STOP CHANGING HIS STORIES!!!
Why? Because He CANNOT SALE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY RELEASED!!!.

What a poor guy. Now he is paying it the hard way. His business is over and he is losing dirty money against dublinbet.
Even if his players do not get money back, they will feel better this fat conman is losing money, he will understand the evil he made to people and what those last felt.

Hello all!
I am new here and I like this place…
Bago, can you tell me what you meant by stefano is loseing money in dublinbet?

Every few months he gets attack of needed urgent attention.

Do you remember about 3-4 years ago when he advertised how he is paying scientists to test his systems to prove it works? Nobody ever was able to contact any scientist, couldn’t see their names, never anything officially was published from them.

If in past 5 years he didn’t prove anything why to waste time with him.
You told me that his manipulative videos have been removed form youtube.
Did you read this?

http://rouletteplace.com/index.php/topic,1065.0.html
Is it related to removal of his videos.

@Gogo

Bago challenged Stefano to make 30K on online casino.
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php/topic,946.0.html

Welcome Gogo - i assume u the one who post at VLS and i assume how u read me mention Forester and myrulet at hes site with my post about how he milk money out of pepole hehehe it does not matter what u write against him - he never stop :slight_smile:

For some of us we cant argue against him to full extant - because if we did we would teach him things wish we would not like to do.

Welcome :wink:

Stefano is a worthless pile of dog SHi_. of course, I have known that for many years now. and many here have known the same thing for a long time now about this BIG IDIOT STEFANO… ;D

that’s why I can’t understand why even waste time talking about this BIG IDIOT STEFANO. Why lower your selves to his level??? just let the loser stay in his own little imaginary world… that way we can all focus on the bottom line here, how to become better at mastering the game of roulette, instead of being counter productive by wasting our times belittling someone that is all ready a super duper midgit. :o

the only exception to that rule is if a newbie was thinking about buying Stefano’s worthless crap, than we must warn that newbie not to waste thousands of dollars on any of Stefano’s worthless crap. :wink:

Hi Gogo,

I mean that with his poor DS system he has no chance against any of the wheels at dublinbet, therefore he will lose money, that is guaranteed.

Hi Dr.Spock,

This time, the fat imbecile reached the point of no return, he has to show his bankroll which will be ZERO, to Snowman(Caleb) against dublinbet casino.
He accepted the challenge because IMHO he is under alcohol or taking drugs and he feels like a superman and he believes strongly in his mad brain all the bullshit about his patterns found in nature.

I already know I’ve won, and it is a question of time before this big cyber gangster disappear from the internet with his scams.

LOL
But you forget something.
Stefano always has an excuse, so do not get too excited.

My guess is that nothing will happen.
Alternatively it will be as Laurance was explaining for Spike’s challenge.
Stefano may risk few hundred, if he gets lucky he can make something, then claim it is a prove.
But I doubt that he will ever make requested 30k.

Who cares as long as he has something to talk about.

@LS yes, I am that guy.
Well, I am from croatia (pozdrav hrvatima) and I am newbee in roulette world. Sometimes I go to casino and sometimes I play online.
Anyway, about Steve I have opinion like everibody and I wonder why he keep every detail (starting bankroll, estimation of winnings, casino name) but talk openly in varius boards.
Privatly fight is discused openly and I think that some sort of resolution must come beetwen all involved.Of course, we all know marketing and how review is important but claims MUSt be shown openly and discused without censorship.
You all have bussines (svako svoga konja hvali) and you all must stay behind yourown work.

I am aware of danger talking about methods on open forum.
Like I have said I am new but I am interesed in learning.
Main dificulty is to find tilted wheel (or I am mistaken?) so what will be main spots to observe and to find such wheel?

Check this just over 2 years ago. ;D ;D ;D
It is Stefanio’s promise.

If you’re after UNDENIABLE PROOF that my roulette system is
effective, this may be what you’re looking for:

"My roulette system will soon be lab tested and accredited by a
highly qualified physicist. This means qualified scientists will
verify my system is what I claim - a genuine long term winner in
REAL CASINO CONDITIONS.

The testing will take place in approximately one month, after
which a report detailing the results will be published on my web
site and to the media
. The physicist’s credentials will also be
included.

Currently many aspects of my system will be confirmed in the
report including but NOT limited to proof that:

1. My system does not rely on any sort of wheel bias or defect
2. My system does not rely on dealer signature
3. My system does not rely on consistent wheel & ball speeds
4. My system is effective in real and common casino conditions"

These days he is telling us how his system is not scam because it is AP.
Where is published media?
Where are scientists to back up his claims?

Well done Forester, that’s what i call a big exposure. His advertisements are completely the opposite of what his system really is.
Now, only affiliates sellers can support this crook, the evidence is clear as rock water.

Again, good job!

Bago

  1. My system does not rely on any sort of wheel bias or defect
  2. My system does not rely on dealer signature
  3. My system does not rely on consistent wheel & ball speeds
  4. My system is effective in real and common casino conditions"

His genuine winner is fully powered by customers money and it works only for Stefano, when he gets your money he is a winner and that is the only prove until now that the system can make money. ;D

Before at that page all he use to have was to submit past 333 results from your wheel (spins in same ball direction, with similar rotor speeds and with similar amount of ball rotations) and by magic curve that he found in nature Stefano will tell you which numbers to play on that wheel.

Later on when he learned basics about bias he tried to make it look that way. He even made false advertisement on youtube (removed), using other peoples movies how they won with bias, to present it and make an impression as it was his system.

Hi Forester,

Stefano showed us his so called report, what a joke really, he wrote this report like he wrote his review of his system at roulettesystemreviews.com

And of course, no name of his so called lab tester, all is hidden, like his face fogged in his roulette conference with empty chairs.

The guy a fruitcake!

lol

Good!!! that means that BIG TIME FRAUD Stefano can go crawl back in his small little miserable hole once and for all… ;D

I KNOW YOU READ THESE MESSAGES STEFANO… YOU DON’T KNOW ME BUT I KNOW YOU…SO BEAT IT PUNK… YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE … :stuck_out_tongue:

results will be published on my web site and to the media

I am still waiting to see that media
I hope it’s not some kind of Genuine winner TV
2.5 years and nothing happened, except that with his empty promises he managed to manipulate few more people.

But his never confirmed results are not main issue here.

Stefano doesn’t understand the issue.

Predicting before then dealer spins AP says, DS or bias.

He declared that his GW system doesn’t work base on any DS and bias, so what is left?

In many of his recent posts he defends himself, with “how my system can be scam if it’s based on AP,
even Forester recognises AP as valid”.

Sounds right, Forester supports AP but never magic of 333 spins and his golden spiral found in nature that helps him detect patterns. Nobody can support such stupidity.

Thanks for Stefano’s document. But really no thanks. :’(

You can’t even see who tested it you can’t see where to read about same person where did he publish it to media. I bet it was never published except by Stefano.

Nothing. Always same for past 5 years, only Stefano words.
Anybody can write same and claim same, so only in someone’s sick head it is a prove as Stefano claimed.

I didn’t read with detail since document is bad quality but somehow even math doesn’t match.

From 1270 spin he claims to have 114 wins
Expected is 102.9

I believe it is below 2 standard deviations
So how his imaginary scientist can claim possibility for that to happen is less then 0.1%

It is a prove as advertisements on TV for abgym. At least they pay someone to do it for them but Stefano have to do everything by himself.

lol good job again Forester, Stefano has never been good in anything he undertook.
If he had been good in physics or maths, he would not have failed his studies.

Concerning his system, OF COURSE it is based on dealer signature, have you looked the private page www.genuinewinner.com/spins.html where he asks his players to collect 300 spins per dealer, there are 12 columns for each dealer.

From 2004 we know it is DS, he began to bullshit with his custom variants when Mark released his PDF. But look, this private page is recent and it is again the same bullshit. He thought it would have staid private but as it does not work the slighest, his players released the information, AGAIN.

Only few players are left, I know because I’ve access to his private message board, only 5 or so people make posts.

Stefano is demolished by the truth which can’t be disputed with such proof we exposed.

I do not understand how he can call it a prove.

It only proves that he has no logic.

That’s what I have been telling you guys all along. that it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation or argument with a man like Stefano that has no logic or common sense who’s entire character is built around a boat load of lies, lie after lie. :o