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E2 roulette system explained on video
« on: September 18, 2008, 05:50:01 AM »
Arturas, it is hard to explain E2 so I made a small video, I hope it helps to understand.

There are explanations somewhere in members section from two years ago.
But I did not use E2 for long time.

Sure that based on when we start within targeted 4-5 sec, prediction may change by few pockets and also our observation and multiplication can add some more errors.
But it still reasonably predicts.
It is similar to what you use but with meaning what each pocket difference in observation represents.
Also since observation is from rotor numbers it almost fully includes rotor speed changes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3063374243294797532&hl=en

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 09:50:51 AM »
hello!i want to learn V/B.does this video describes the logic that the computer works?or is it a method that can be applied with naked eye?

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 10:15:50 AM »
You should look for something as this
http://rouletteplace.com/index.php/topic,531.0.html

E2 needs timer.
It is kind of VB for leveled wheel.
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 12:59:03 PM »
thanks a lot!

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 09:03:06 AM »
Hi guys

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In the vid you use a time of 4.2 sec.  How do you decide that this is the correct time to use?

Sorry if its a dumb question!

btw.......great informative site......Thanks

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 10:08:02 AM »
hello Toka,

It isn't dumb question.

Experiment and analyzing video recordings.
Even if time is not so accurate it doesn't matter much as long as you have good feeling to start time at close to same time.
On similar principles my VB2 for tilted wheel is based. Of course it is much simpler.


What is the change in reference time is 1/3 of what is the change of real ball position.
With VB2 it is 1/1, also the change is much smaller.

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 10:47:43 AM »
thanks for quick reply.

I think i understand but just to be clear, if i go to the casino tonight and try e2, would i simply pick a time and try it out then make adjustments as neccesary or is there some way of finding a starting time?

'Even if time is not so accurate it doesn't matter much as long as you have good feeling to start time at close to same time. '

same time as what?



Also, i tried the link to your vb2 system found in this forum but link was dead.......can you help please?

many thanks
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 11:52:48 AM »
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Same time as what?


As on video I did predict from from 3 sec to 8 sec with good linearity that is 5 sec time for player to start system during the spin and still to have systems linearity.

If I was using 5 sec instead of 4.2 then that time may be only 3 sec, and prediction slightly starts shifting. 
If we convert 5 sec to ball rotations it may be let's say 8 ball rotations.
The main point is to learn to get feeling for ball speed, within 3-4 rotations.
Then it really doesn't matter much if the time is 4 or 5 sec.

Yes we lost the link, I found some files you can download it here:


http://rapidshare.com/files/287724140/myrulet_E2_system.pps.html

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »
Hey thanks, you're a good man. But I was refering to the VB2 link.
nice show tho ;D

Do you sell the timers for e2 or should i find one myself?

It seems to me that with a deal of practice, e2 can be used without a timer(removing the need to take a device into a casino).  What are your opinions about the practicality of this?


Do you know where I can find some spins videos so I can prctice e2 Please?

Thanks
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 02:00:00 PM »
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Hey thanks, you're a good man. But I was refering to the VB2 link.

You can find it somewhere on myrulet.com site.

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Do you sell the timers for e2 or should i find one myself?

FFZ has adjustable timer. But you can use any, good is metronome watch.


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It seems to me that with a deal of practice, e2 can be used without a timer(removing the need to take a device into a casino).  What are your opinions about the practicality of this?
Theoretically yes. But you can't have such good count of time.
Do not forget that every mistake is 3 times larger.
VB2 is ok without timer.

Do you know where I can find some spins videos so I can prctice e2 Please?

Check genuine winner site he published some videos to promote his product.
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 03:47:37 PM »
I have downloaded the file from your website but I'm unable to open it. 

Is there some other way I can see it please?

Would you mind pasting the info into an email or a .txt document maybe?

cheers, I appreciate your time


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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 08:55:45 PM »
to open it you need microsoft word
and password "myrulet.com"
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2009, 12:03:39 PM »
Took it to work and opened it there and converted it to something i can see ;D  Many thanks

Yes I do have a day job....something I'm looking to remedy in the near future ;)

V2 just looks too simple to work :o  Can it really be that easy??

So, if I can do the ground work first, then learn V2 and E2 inside out, should I be able to make enough money to live on comfortably?  What are your thoughts on making a living at roulette?

Personally, if I can make £2.5k  and never play again, I'd be a happy man.


Presumably, when choosing a timing device, I should choose one which has an adjustable output?

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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2010, 07:59:07 AM »
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V2 just looks too simple to work    Can it really be that easy??
And what is traditional VB? Identify when ball is at particular speed read reference number, compare it to outcome. Simple.

VB2 is simpler because with traditional VB if you miss to identify when the ball is at right speed you are far out from result. With VB2 you are not. You can be wrong 5 rotations and still get same reference number. It is smart system and very easy to apply. It is so smart that many couldn't understand that it can be so simple.
Any Average Joe can say I know VB, I look and estimate when the ball is at particular speed. For that Joe there is a problem if he doesn't estimate it right, he knows it but doesn't know better then that. Because he is an Average Joe and I am not, I am an “Average” Engineer, when I see problem I find solution. Some Joe's can't even understand when solution gets introduced to them, therefore we can't blame Av. Joe if he couldn't find his own solution.

I found out that most people can't understand how VB2 can work if we do not read first number but only number after reference time is elapsed. We do not need it because starting point is constant, ball drop point is constant, time of starting reference time for VB2 is not constant (since we do not know did we start in same ball rotation), but also the ball traveling distance in reference time is not constant (faster ball in same time crosses more pockets).

Adjusting reference time where the ball traveling distance in pockets changes from point to point matches distance in pockets that rotor would travel from point to point  gives us the prefect prediction regardless in which point we predict. Changes are reverse proportional,  canceling errors caused by using different starting point in time therefore we still have accurate prediction.  All we need for VB2 is particular reference time to apply at some stage during the spin.



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So, if I can do the ground work first, then learn V2 and E2 inside out, should I be able to make enough money to live on comfortably?  What are your thoughts on making a living at roulette?


VB2 is much easier then E2, but E2 is the one ever solution for visual kind of prediction on leveled wheel. Few years ago I supplied timer and E2 to one guy at GG forum for testing on his wheel. During ~500 spins he did have 1:28 hit rate.
All he did play spins, write start number and second number. Then I explained how multiplication by 3 provides as reasonable result. That is how myrulet.com site come up.
I was asked to make FF and together with 10 people we started project.

I didn't play E2 for years, and I am not sure if I would be able to create advantage as I use to do it, it requires a lot of practice and wheels are getting harder. I do not know can you make living with VB2 or E2 or any traditional VB. What do you think?

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Presumably, when choosing a timing device, I should choose one which has an adjustable output?

Yes, but also in may situations it may be important to have time starting at particular moment. So it would be good if timer can be started by switch.
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 12:57:07 PM »
I'm sorry if any of my questions sound stupid! I'm pretty much a novice.

Am I right in playing E2 like this.

1) Find a wheel with a time of 3,5 sec per rev - 4,5 sec
2) When the ball is spun look as early as possible (maybe 3rd revolution of ball or so) and note when the ball crosses 0. Start counting
3) Count to 4 sec (4,2 sec) and look at the number under the ball at that time.
4) Look at the angle between the zero and the number that was found under the ball at 4 sec. Take that angle and add it another two times.


Example:


I have started counting after the ball crosses zero.

On 4 seconds I get number 15
So now from 0 to 15 is 2 pockets, So now we go from 15 another 4 pockets to the number 2.

So 2 becomes my target and I play 2 and neighbors.

Is this in anyway close to the correct method of playing E2?

Thanking you in advance
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 04:15:37 PM »
Everything is ok except you can count only theoretically.
You need a timer.
For example, if you counting 4 instead of 4.2s you are wrong by 0.2 sec.
In that time the ball may cross 20 pockets …x 3 is 60 , far more then 37.

In example “So 2 becomes my target and I play 2 and neighbors.”
“ 2” would be only reference number from which the ball should drop with constant distance.

For example you may get predicted 2 and the ball drops at 20,
But next spin if you get predicted 0 the ball should drop around 5.

From that approach reference time can be reduced, 1.5-2 sec no multiplication and you are playing tilt2. Much easier.
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 06:10:22 AM »
 ;) Thank you very much for the reply.

I truly appreciate it. Seems true that you are the only vb expert who shares freely! Thank you!

Kind regards
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Re: E2 roulette system explained on video
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2010, 05:19:14 AM »
Thanks for the video on how to play roulette. I'm new to playing and wanted to know more about roulette games in general.